Re: Electric cars

by HawkTheSlayer Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:47 pm

Red Lily wrote:
HawkTheSlayer wrote:One could not make it from Sydney to Canberra in an electric vehicle. How in the hell would you make it to Perth on electric?
Are you guys ok with paying a price premium for gasoline?

Oh , and beleive me , I know you already do!
But I mean , if you give in to this bullshit you'll be paying more.

I realize it's probably cheaper to fly to Perth from Sydney. Way cheaper.

I had a lot of thoughts I had to delete here.

Did you miss the part where I said we are not ready for EVs yet? Or that I prefer hybrids?

I have no desire to drive to Canberra or Perth but, thanks to our new leftist moonbat government, petrol/gas here right now is $2.04 per litre! That's right, per LITRE and since I have to do a lot of driving right now that really pisses me off having to waste all that money just getting from A to B.

My son has a hybrid and he does NOT have to charge it. Petrol/gas starts it and then the electric motor takes over. The battery stays charged through regenerative braking and by the internal combustion engine. He drives hundreds of miles regularly and never has a problem. It's a great, and very quiet, car and if I wanted to dish out $40,000 for a car I'd certainly buy one. No charging and it would save me thousands of $$s.

I'm not giving in to any bullshit because there really IS some balanced middle ground between the extremes of "shut down all the power stations and everyone has to drive an electric vehicle" and "OMG they are out to destroy us so don't give in to the scam " ... and that's where I prefer my head to be.

Back in the 1990s some of you probably thought cordless phones and the internet were the work of the devil too. Trust me, I had a lot of thoughts I had to delete here too!!

The point is , you have no desire to do anything that will upset anybody. You troll and you'll troll her the troll wins.

People here don't give a care about that.

by HawkTheSlayer Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:55 pm

HawkTheSlayer wrote:
Red Lily wrote:
HawkTheSlayer wrote:One could not make it from Sydney to Canberra in an electric vehicle. How in the hell would you make it to Perth on electric?
Are you guys ok with paying a price premium for gasoline?

Oh , and beleive me , I know you already do!
But I mean , if you give in to this bullshit you'll be paying more.

I realize it's probably cheaper to fly to Perth from Sydney. Way cheaper.

I had a lot of thoughts I had to delete here.

Did you miss the part where I said we are not ready for EVs yet? Or that I prefer hybrids?

I have no desire to drive to Canberra or Perth but, thanks to our new leftist moonbat government, petrol/gas here right now is $2.04 per litre! That's right, per LITRE and since I have to do a lot of driving right now that really pisses me off having to waste all that money just getting from A to B.

My son has a hybrid and he does NOT have to charge it. Petrol/gas starts it and then the electric motor takes over. The battery stays charged through regenerative braking and by the internal combustion engine. He drives hundreds of miles regularly and never has a problem. It's a great, and very quiet, car and if I wanted to dish out $40,000 for a car I'd certainly buy one. No charging and it would save me thousands of $$s.

I'm not giving in to any bullshit because there really IS some balanced middle ground between the extremes of "shut down all the power stations and everyone has to drive an electric vehicle" and "OMG they are out to destroy us so don't give in to the scam " ... and that's where I prefer my head to be.

Back in the 1990s some of you probably thought cordless phones and the internet were the work of the devil too. Trust me, I had a lot of thoughts I had to delete here too!!

The point is , you have no desire to do anything that will upset anybody. You troll and you'll troll her the troll wins.

People here don't give a care about that.

That was m want for @Sprintcyclist

by Red Lily Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:56 pm

HawkTheSlayer wrote:
Red Lily wrote:
HawkTheSlayer wrote:One could not make it from Sydney to Canberra in an electric vehicle. How in the hell would you make it to Perth on electric?
Are you guys ok with paying a price premium for gasoline?

Oh , and beleive me , I know you already do!
But I mean , if you give in to this bullshit you'll be paying more.

I realize it's probably cheaper to fly to Perth from Sydney. Way cheaper.

I had a lot of thoughts I had to delete here.

Did you miss the part where I said we are not ready for EVs yet? Or that I prefer hybrids?

I have no desire to drive to Canberra or Perth but, thanks to our new leftist moonbat government, petrol/gas here right now is $2.04 per litre! That's right, per LITRE and since I have to do a lot of driving right now that really pisses me off having to waste all that money just getting from A to B.

My son has a hybrid and he does NOT have to charge it. Petrol/gas starts it and then the electric motor takes over. The battery stays charged through regenerative braking and by the internal combustion engine. He drives hundreds of miles regularly and never has a problem. It's a great, and very quiet, car and if I wanted to dish out $40,000 for a car I'd certainly buy one. No charging and it would save me thousands of $$s.

I'm not giving in to any bullshit because there really IS some balanced middle ground between the extremes of "shut down all the power stations and everyone has to drive an electric vehicle" and "OMG they are out to destroy us so don't give in to the scam " ... and that's where I prefer my head to be.

Back in the 1990s some of you probably thought cordless phones and the internet were the work of the devil too. Trust me, I had a lot of thoughts I had to delete here too!!

The point is , you have no desire to do anything that will upset anybody. You troll and you'll troll her the troll wins.

People here don't give a care about that.

by HawkTheSlayer Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:01 pm

Sprintcyclist wrote:
HawkTheSlayer wrote:One could not make it from Sydney to Canberra in an electric vehicle. How in the hell would you make it to Perth on electric?
Are you guys ok with paying a price premium for gasoline?

Oh , and beleive me , I know you already do!
But I mean , if you give in to this bullshit you'll be paying more.

I realize it's probably cheaper to fly to Perth from Sydney. Way cheaper.

I had a lot of thoughts I had to delete here.

Many years ago a guy drove right around Australia in an EV.
Just to show it could be done.

Hybrids are prob the most practical at this stage

Sprint you're as weak as they come.

First of all , there is a swamp.

I spent two decades there working my ass off making more money than you've ever seen.

by Casey Jones Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:42 pm

I refuse to let political (meaning, MOB) pressures, force me into buying a god-awful expensive, and as we're seeing, dangerous product.

There is nothing wrong with gasoline automobiles - EXCEPT that the imbecilic Woke mobs have been told to HATE them...VIOLENTLY.

It makes more sense to walk, frankly. These battery cars are toys...and a folly.

by Casey Jones Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:47 pm

RV wrote:
Calypso Jones wrote:https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/reality-check-ford-ceo-struggles-to-charge-ev-during-road-trip/

ford ceo takes a trip in his EV and finds out just how challenging it is. So what they're telling us is that Gov't motors is producing these cars..at our expense mind you...cause the gov't takes our money and gives it to Govt motors.... and they really don't know how they perform in REALITY.

there's a clue in there somewhere.

Yeah, what they DON"T tell you is a) what the actual cost is by the time you buy the car, install charge boxes/electric b) how many miles the batteries last c) what the resale value is and finally, d) what the battery costs to replace it.

People who have children and EV's suffer from what has been coined "mileage/recharge anxiety" because they have anxiety over whether they will make it to the next recharging center in time. Vacations are especially difficult for people. Sometimes the recharging station has either been vandalized and is inoperable, does not work correctly/at all or is otherwise too far for EV's to go from where they are.

I'll bet there's a fair amount of money to be made in "scrapping" the copper power cords on those EV plug-in stations.

Just come in with electricians' rubber gloves and big wire cutters...snip, six stations, throw in the back of your car, and leave, fast.

Cover your license plate, first. Better yet, have fake ones, for the Deed.

by Calypso Jones Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:27 pm

We have an EV....and you're right...it is more a toy than anything else. Taxes on it are highter because they don't make the tax $ off you at the pump. The registration is somewhat more expensive too....got to make up for loss of gas tax.

Totally electric. So that is what a hybrid does? depends on Gas to start it and then electxricity takes over?. I didn't realize that. how's that kosher? HOWEVER on my electric toy...periodically you have to Replace those batteries...and they are NOT cheap either. and there's 6 of them. Tires aren't cheap either.

by Red Lily Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:31 pm

Is your 'EV' a golf cart or a real vehicle? No hybrid cars require 6 batteries. Golf carts do but I don't consider them real vehicles. They're toys.

by Casey Jones Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:34 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:We have an EV....and you're right...it is more a toy than anything else. Taxes on it are highter because they don't make the tax $ off you at the pump. The registration is somewhat more expensive too....got to make up for loss of gas tax.

Totally electric. So that is what a hybrid does? depends on Gas to start it and then electxricity takes over?. I didn't realize that. how's that kosher? HOWEVER on my electric toy...periodically you have to Replace those batteries...and they are NOT cheap either. and there's 6 of them. Tires aren't cheap either.

If you can afford more than one car...an electric car makes sense, for short hops around town.

What many people don't realize, is that a cold start on a gas/diesel engine, is the equivalent to about 200 miles driving. That's on a gasoline engine - with a diesel, it's worse. With trucks and industrial equipment, it really does make sense to leave them idling hours overnight. Or, conversely, to plug them into block heaters to keep them warm, even during summer.

If you can afford it, and have the space - you save wear on the Camry by using an EZ-Go golf car or a Leaf, to go six blocks to the grocer's. While keeping the Toyota healthy to take a trip across the nation,.

Otherwise...no. HELL no.

by Casey Jones Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:35 pm

Red Lily wrote:Is your 'EV' a golf cart or a real vehicle? No hybrid cars require 6 batteries. Golf carts do but I don't consider them real vehicles. They're toys.

What do you call a real car?

How far to you go between plug-ins? WHERE do you plug it in? HOW MUCH does it COST you, and how much TIME does it take?

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