Ballot Issue - Recreational Marijuana

2cent wrote:

Sprintcyclist wrote:

2cent wrote:

.............. You come across as not knowing that growing pot for your own personal use was perfectly acceptable up until the 60's, here in the U.S. of A.  I don't want to assume, so I'll ask, did you not know that?  People had pot plants growing on their balconies in New York City, and no one thought anything of it.  
In all honestly, it's still a mystery to me how, and why, Congress got away with a broad brush law making it illegal, in one fell swoop.  I don't have an answer for that, but, one day it was perfectly acceptable, and the next, it was illegal.   Where do you think Congress found the authority to do that, in the U.S. Constitution?  Really, I'd like an answer.

You truly don't think that what you posted ...To quote you:

Yeah, "medical marijuana", quack "doctors", "quack science" and a "quack industry". What's next? Legalizing molestation? Addiction? Rape? Incest? Crime? Other perversions???

...is not on the extreme side, when it comes to comparing those horrendous acts to people who smoke pot?  Truly???

The point here is to return using pot to the NON-criminal stance it now is, so that adults who choose to partake would not be breaking the law, if they choose to use it.  So your point to hold people accountable for breaking the law falls clean flat.  

Why don't you believe in personal, individual freedom?

Apparently Du Pont were starting to make rayon.
Hemp is a MUCH better material, so Du Pont put in political pressure (bribes) and got marijuana made illegal.
marijuana being illegal, people could not grow hemp. Dupont had that market
Judges, lawyers and criminals got rich.
Poor people got jailed.

I'd forgotten all about that.  Thanks.  Hard part is finding out if it's true or not.  (I've been told that it's pure fable, but I can't think of any other plausible explanation.  )  

I've never heard the part about poor people going to jail.  Could be true, due to the inability to afford a good lawyer.  Where'd you hear that?

Yes, I just heard about it by word of mouth too. Could well be a story.
poorer people are much more likely to be caught. Judges kids are not targeted. Kids at expensive schools are not targeted.
If they get caught and a police is unwise enough to press charges, they get a really good lawyer.
Good lawyers give you a lighter punishment. That is how the law works. I've seen it happen.
So people with no lawyers or a bad one, they get a worse punishment.

Sprintcyclist wrote:

2cent wrote:

Sprintcyclist wrote:

2cent wrote:

.............. You come across as not knowing that growing pot for your own personal use was perfectly acceptable up until the 60's, here in the U.S. of A.  I don't want to assume, so I'll ask, did you not know that?  People had pot plants growing on their balconies in New York City, and no one thought anything of it.  
In all honestly, it's still a mystery to me how, and why, Congress got away with a broad brush law making it illegal, in one fell swoop.  I don't have an answer for that, but, one day it was perfectly acceptable, and the next, it was illegal.   Where do you think Congress found the authority to do that, in the U.S. Constitution?  Really, I'd like an answer.

You truly don't think that what you posted ...To quote you:

Yeah, "medical marijuana", quack "doctors", "quack science" and a "quack industry". What's next? Legalizing molestation? Addiction? Rape? Incest? Crime? Other perversions???

...is not on the extreme side, when it comes to comparing those horrendous acts to people who smoke pot?  Truly???

The point here is to return using pot to the NON-criminal stance it now is, so that adults who choose to partake would not be breaking the law, if they choose to use it.  So your point to hold people accountable for breaking the law falls clean flat.  

Why don't you believe in personal, individual freedom?

Apparently Du Pont were starting to make rayon.
Hemp is a MUCH better material, so Du Pont put in political pressure (bribes) and got marijuana made illegal.
marijuana being illegal, people could not grow hemp. Dupont had that market
Judges, lawyers and criminals got rich.
Poor people got jailed.

I'd forgotten all about that.  Thanks.  Hard part is finding out if it's true or not.  (I've been told that it's pure fable, but I can't think of any other plausible explanation.  )  

I've never heard the part about poor people going to jail.  Could be true, due to the inability to afford a good lawyer.  Where'd you hear that?

Yes, I just heard about it by word of mouth too. Could well be a story.
poorer people are much more likely to be caught. Judges kids are not targeted. Kids at expensive schools are not targeted.
If they get caught and a police is unwise enough to press charges, they get a really good lawyer.
Good lawyers give you a lighter punishment. That is how the law works. I've seen it happen.
So people with no lawyers or a bad one, they get a worse punishment.

Really you've "seen it happen"? You live in what country NOT in the United States?

This is the kind of nonsense that the leftists pull constantly. They throw around words like democracy, freedom and rights in order to pass Communist, anti-freedom right taking legislation. The average American thinks that they are voting FOR freedom when in reality they are supporting taxation, slavery and elitist nonsense. In some cases (as listed above), the proponents don't even live in the United States and thus want the U.S. to be as Socialistic as they are.

In the mean time, the REAL working class, the REAL poor are struggling just to feed and clothe their children. The Liberal Democrats tell them that they need "just a little more" to give them freebies but, never give what they have promised. The Liberal Democrats just keep taking from the poor and working class while the high ranking Democrats line their pockets and make themselves rich.

In the case of the WuFlu, anyone ever check how much money the Pharmaceutical companies have made? Guess which candidates and party those companies contributed to? (Democrats!)

As far as legalizing Marijuana goes, I will NEVER vote to legalize it, EVER. There are enough morons who do stupid things with their belly full of "liquid courage", I would never legalize other morons smoking their way to "courage" to do other stupid things.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/atf-until-recreational-cannabis-is-federally-legalized-pot-users-cannot-own-guns/

ST. PAUL, Minn. -- The federal agency that regulates the firearms industry sent an advisory on Tuesday warning that Minnesotans who use marijuana cannot legally own firearms, despite a new state law legalizing recreational use.

Marijuana for adults is now legal in 23 states and even more have medical cannabis programs. But it's still a Schedule I controlled substance under federal law on par with LSD and heroin.

well now i'm confused...aren't the democraps, humper biden, Romney, former speaker boehner, medical folk?  state and local govt's, pot  USERS, telling us it is safe and effective??

Recreational pot is gonna be on the ballot in Ohio this November, and honestly, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it passes. I would be disgusted for sure, because after what has happened out west in states like Colorado, I don't know why any other state (especially a red one like Ohio) would want to go down the same path.

At best, it should be decriminalized or made legal for medicinal use (provided it's not used as a backdoor to recreational use like what happened in California). But to make it legal gives the government the ability to make more dirty money off of something that does nothing but harm people.

I'd bet most people who want to legalize it are stoners. I can't think of anything about it that would make it a benefit to anyone else.

In the United States, increased restrictions and labeling of cannabis (legal term marijuana or marihuana) as a poison began in many states from 1906 onward, and outright prohibitions began in the 1920s. By the mid-1930s cannabis was regulated as a drug in every state, including 35 states that adopted the Uniform State Narcotic Drug Act. The first national regulation was the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937.

New York did not have legalized marijuana in 1960 and prior. No one was growing it on windowsills. No one in 1950 was legally growing. I was there.

In areas that have legalized pot, the legal farms are fronts for cartels and the Chinese. There are still huge pot farms that are illegal. Do the cartels and Chinese really, REALLY, have your best interests in mind?

Calypso Jones wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/atf-until-recreational-cannabis-is-federally-legalized-pot-users-cannot-own-guns/

ST. PAUL, Minn. -- The federal agency that regulates the firearms industry sent an advisory on Tuesday warning that Minnesotans who use marijuana cannot legally own firearms, despite a new state law legalizing recreational use.

Marijuana for adults is now legal in 23 states and even more have medical cannabis programs. But it's still a Schedule I controlled substance under federal law on par with LSD and heroin.

well now i'm confused...aren't the democraps, humper biden, Romney, former speaker boehner, medical folk?  state and local govt's, pot  USERS, telling us it is safe and effective??

"Safe and effective" like the WuFlu "Vaccine"? I'll pass...

Most people who know the truth , know , that MJ can not alleviate it.