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Post by vege57 Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:31 am

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Elizabeth Theus wrote:
I‘m a firearms dealer. I’m also an NRA Safety Instructor - and an actor.

Rule #1 - “Never point a gun at someone you don’t want to shoot.”

Quite possibly if Alec Baldwin had learned to properly use a firearm and gained more respect for both their utilitarian purpose and their danger—he wouldn’t have discharged a weapon in the direction of 42-year-old Director of Photography Halyna Hutchins.

Accident do happen
Accidents do happen, but when they do, if the basic rules of guns safety are followed the result is usually not tragic— just embarrassing.

I have unintentionally discharged weapons in the course of my forty-year involvement with the use of firearms; but fortunately the resulting discharge was always in the direction of the ground and not where it might have harmed someone.

During my time as a professional actor,  I have used “prop” guns on a set two times—once on the Paramount back-lot —and the gun, a 4” .38 Special,  was jealously guarded by the Armorer. I received the gun moments before the filming started and then the gun was taken back immediately after the filming stopped. Only the armorer had access to the weapon.

I did a scene on Miami Vice opposite Don Johnson, and during the scene he was to pull his Smith and Wesson .45ACP and point it at me. I demanded to check the weapon, but was initially rebuffed by the Armorer.  I went to the director and told him I wouldn’t do the scene unless I first checked the gun, explaining that I was an NRA Safety Instructor and that SAG rules allowed me to confirm that the gun was unloaded.  Ultimately, the armorer, checked the gun, including magazine, in front of me and guaranteed that Johnson wouldn’t have the gun until the filming started.


If Baldwin had more respect for guns rather than a general disdain for guns, he wouldn’t have pointed the gun at Ms Hutchins
This is where “chain of custody” is a life or death matter. One never knows if a Looney Tunes individual will put an actual live cartridge in the gun when no one is looking.

I was a Featured Day Player on Miami Vice and Johnson was the Star - but safety rules apply to everyone —especially on a movie set where there is much going on and there is a great deal of pressure to get a scene in the can as inexpensively as possible.

I will confidentially speculate that, regardless of what happened, the term “accidental discharge” does not cover the situation with Alec Baldwin.

If Baldwin had more respect for guns rather than a general disdain for guns, he wouldn’t have pointed the gun at Ms Hutchins. The arrogance he has displayed in his anti-gun statements is no less arrogant that his flagrantly pointing a gun at a person he didn’t intend to kill.

Rule two:  - “All guns are loaded - even when they are not.”

https://canadafreepress.com/article/alec-baldwins-expensive-lesson-about-guns

I know nothing about guns. But I have some common sense.

Was it in the script for Baldwin to point the gun at Ms Hutchins ?

It would appear that she was standing behind the camera whilst a scene was being shot, if you'll pardon the pun
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Post by jirqoadai Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:48 am

Daily Bread wrote:He's in deep deep trouble over this as he was a coproducer of this film set and shares in the safety responsibility . Only days before the crew had walked off the set claiming dangerous conditions . They had the same gun with previous problems regarding misfires , the crew had not been paid for 3 weeks and Baldwin was using non union employees to circumvent payroll and safety . Guns ,even with blanks ,cannot be fires within 20 ft of an actor while filming and its coming out that this may have not been a blank round . Was Baldwin screwing around off set firing with live rounds and left one in it ? Did a disgruntled ex union employee get pissed off and load a live round in the gun to cause it - Baldwin got rid of the union employees a few weeks prior to this . 
Something stinks and I hope Baldwin gets nailed .
he is set to be the new governor of NM.
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Post by Calypso Jones Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:46 am

THIS is the person in charge of guns on Baldwin's low budget set.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/photos-this-is-the-woman-alec-baldwin-put-in-charge-of-firearms-for-his-low-budget-film/
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Post by 2cent Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:33 am

Daily Bread wrote:He's in deep deep trouble over this as he was a coproducer of this film set and shares in the safety responsibility . Only days before the crew had walked off the set claiming dangerous conditions . They had the same gun with previous problems regarding misfires , the crew had not been paid for 3 weeks and Baldwin was using non union employees to circumvent payroll and safety . Guns ,even with blanks ,cannot be fires within 20 ft of an actor while filming and its coming out that this may have not been a blank round . Was Baldwin screwing around off set firing with live rounds and left one in it ? Did a disgruntled ex union employee get pissed off and load a live round in the gun to cause it - Baldwin got rid of the union employees a few weeks prior to this . 
Something stinks and I hope Baldwin gets nailed .
That's all it right there. All pretty well in a nutshell. Well done, Sir.
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Post by Crusader Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:54 am

Calypso Jones wrote:THIS is the person in charge of guns on Baldwin's low budget set.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/photos-this-is-the-woman-alec-baldwin-put-in-charge-of-firearms-for-his-low-budget-film/

How much do you want to bet that she comes into a lot of money soon for taking the blame for this? I'm just saying. Her personal appearance and demeanor in front of the camera don't exude confidence in her ability to ensure safety. I know appearances can be deceiving, but she is also in the middle of this excrement extravaganza.
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Post by Sprintcyclist Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:31 pm

2cent wrote:
Daily Bread wrote:He's in deep deep trouble over this as he was a coproducer of this film set and shares in the safety responsibility . Only days before the crew had walked off the set claiming dangerous conditions . They had the same gun with previous problems regarding misfires , the crew had not been paid for 3 weeks and Baldwin was using non union employees to circumvent payroll and safety . Guns ,even with blanks ,cannot be fires within 20 ft of an actor while filming and its coming out that this may have not been a blank round . Was Baldwin screwing around off set firing with live rounds and left one in it ? Did a disgruntled ex union employee get pissed off and load a live round in the gun to cause it - Baldwin got rid of the union employees a few weeks prior to this . 
Something stinks and I hope Baldwin gets nailed .
That's all it right there.  All pretty well in a nutshell.  Well done, Sir.

Ah, something went really wrong.
Often it takes a few errors compounded to make this disaster happen.
People hardly ever get 'unlucky' the first time
Union/safety problems, a gun that has misfired in the past, live ammo ..............

There is a lot that is wrong

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Post by Calypso Jones Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:10 pm

Left keeps trying to say 'that gun had previously gone off by itself.' come on man. Guns. DO NOT go off by themselves.
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Post by HawkTheSlayer Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:00 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:Left keeps trying to say 'that gun had previously gone off by itself.'   come on man.  Guns.  DO NOT go off by themselves.  
No. But sometimes a cartridge may not fire for several seconds.
Been there, done that.
Happened to me with .243 , 100 gr. Bullets.
Scared the shit out of me. I threw the box away.

But I never took the scope off the rabbits head. Lol.
Had a perfect headless rabbit with some good meat with no bb's or bloodshot meat to pick though.

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Post by jirqoadai Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:42 pm

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Calypso Jones wrote:Left keeps trying to say 'that gun had previously gone off by itself.'   come on man.  Guns.  DO NOT go off by themselves.  
No. But sometimes a cartridge may not fire for several seconds.
Been there, done that.
Happened to me with .243 , 100 gr. Bullets.
Scared the shit out of me. I threw the box away.

But I never took the scope off the rabbits head. Lol.
Had a perfect headless rabbit with some good meat with no bb's or bloodshot meat to pick though.
whatdya do with the rest of the ammo after you threw away the box it came in?
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Post by Elizabeth Theus Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:07 pm

Woman in Charge of Guns on Alec Baldwin’s Movie Set Deletes Her Social Media Accounts

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