Gun Control Activist Alec Baldwin Shoots and Kills Crew Member on Movie Set, Shoots Director

Sprintcyclist wrote:

Elizabeth Theus wrote:
I‘m a firearms dealer. I’m also an NRA Safety Instructor - and an actor.

Rule #1 - “Never point a gun at someone you don’t want to shoot.”

Quite possibly if Alec Baldwin had learned to properly use a firearm and gained more respect for both their utilitarian purpose and their danger—he wouldn’t have discharged a weapon in the direction of 42-year-old Director of Photography Halyna Hutchins.

Accident do happen
Accidents do happen, but when they do, if the basic rules of guns safety are followed the result is usually not tragic— just embarrassing.

I have unintentionally discharged weapons in the course of my forty-year involvement with the use of firearms; but fortunately the resulting discharge was always in the direction of the ground and not where it might have harmed someone.

During my time as a professional actor,  I have used “prop” guns on a set two times—once on the Paramount back-lot —and the gun, a 4” .38 Special,  was jealously guarded by the Armorer. I received the gun moments before the filming started and then the gun was taken back immediately after the filming stopped. Only the armorer had access to the weapon.

I did a scene on Miami Vice opposite Don Johnson, and during the scene he was to pull his Smith and Wesson .45ACP and point it at me. I demanded to check the weapon, but was initially rebuffed by the Armorer.  I went to the director and told him I wouldn’t do the scene unless I first checked the gun, explaining that I was an NRA Safety Instructor and that SAG rules allowed me to confirm that the gun was unloaded.  Ultimately, the armorer, checked the gun, including magazine, in front of me and guaranteed that Johnson wouldn’t have the gun until the filming started.


If Baldwin had more respect for guns rather than a general disdain for guns, he wouldn’t have pointed the gun at Ms Hutchins
This is where “chain of custody” is a life or death matter. One never knows if a Looney Tunes individual will put an actual live cartridge in the gun when no one is looking.

I was a Featured Day Player on Miami Vice and Johnson was the Star - but safety rules apply to everyone —especially on a movie set where there is much going on and there is a great deal of pressure to get a scene in the can as inexpensively as possible.

I will confidentially speculate that, regardless of what happened, the term “accidental discharge” does not cover the situation with Alec Baldwin.

If Baldwin had more respect for guns rather than a general disdain for guns, he wouldn’t have pointed the gun at Ms Hutchins. The arrogance he has displayed in his anti-gun statements is no less arrogant that his flagrantly pointing a gun at a person he didn’t intend to kill.

Rule two:  - “All guns are loaded - even when they are not.”

https://canadafreepress.com/article/alec-baldwins-expensive-lesson-about-guns

I know nothing about guns. But I have some common sense.

Was it in the script for Baldwin to point the gun at Ms Hutchins ?

vege57 wrote:

Casey Jones wrote:

Daily Bread wrote:He's in deep deep trouble over this as he was a coproducer of this film set and shares in the safety responsibility . Only days before the crew had walked off the set claiming dangerous conditions . They had the same gun with previous problems regarding misfires , the crew had not been paid for 3 weeks and Baldwin was using non union employees to circumvent payroll and safety . Guns ,even with blanks ,cannot be fires within 20 ft of an actor while filming and its coming out that this may have not been a blank round . Was Baldwin screwing around off set firing with live rounds and left one in it ? Did a disgruntled ex union employee get pissed off and load a live round in the gun to cause it - Baldwin got rid of the union employees a few weeks prior to this . 
Something stinks and I hope Baldwin gets nailed .

I hope you're right, that he's in trouble - but he's spent his whole life avoiding consequences of his infantile temper.

The situation I'd like to see, is that the union use its political muscle to get the prosecutors to indict the arsehole...and bring charges of Manslaughter or 2nd Degree Homicide.

Let him die in prison - convinced he got railroaded because the unions hated him.  Let him stew on it, that way.  And may the courts find him liable, and give his millions to the children of this woman.

Even if her husband was a Clintonoid.

Unless he supplied the gun and loaded it himself he wont face charges, even then if he was given the ammo by the armorer and told it was safe he probably still wont, he may have no real knowledge or familiarity with firearms , at the end of the day he is just an actor ?

Calypso Jones wrote:Left keeps trying to say 'that gun had previously gone off by itself.'   come on man.  Guns.  DO NOT go off by themselves.  

vege57 wrote:

Calypso Jones wrote:Left keeps trying to say 'that gun had previously gone off by itself.'   come on man.  Guns.  DO NOT go off by themselves.  

They most certainly can if in poor condition, but would need to be cocked first

Calypso Jones wrote:cant get it to load. LOL

jirqoadai wrote:

vege57 wrote:

Calypso Jones wrote:Left keeps trying to say 'that gun had previously gone off by itself.'   come on man.  Guns.  DO NOT go off by themselves.  

They most certainly can if in poor condition, but would need to be cocked first

wut? if i fire a hammerless revolver, when do i need to cock it?