About those Flood Legends
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Re: About those Flood Legends
Calypso Jones wrote:vege57 wrote:Calypso Jones wrote:vege57 wrote:Calypso Jones wrote:Look at your evolutionists evidence for the depositing of dinosaur fossils.....world. woid. flud.
Flooding has nothing to do with evolution . Its an environmental issue
I'm not sure as to what your concerns are regarding fossils ?
Evolution is
historical science. it's not science at all...it's fantasy. It is not actual science which is observational science. But like evolution people would rather believe it than the what the evidence points to. It's hating a creator God and undermining his word and actions at any and every opportunity.
A few hundred years back Christian's thought the world was a couple of thousand years old, we have well and truly dispelled that myth
no you haven't.
LOL.
How about, the Biblical record of the history of the world that Jews cared about as was known at the time was only a couple thousand years old. That's not very accurate either but it's an improvement.
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I'm not really going by Hebrew/Israelite/jewish history oral or written. I'm using scientific evidence, yes, scientific using scientific logic and reasoning... to explain the discrepancies in carbon dating, the erosion of the Grand canyon, the numerous 'missing link' found (falsified) and then later quietly removed, and other overwhelming evidence of young earth.
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Re: About those Flood Legends
Calypso Jones wrote:I'm not really going by Hebrew/Israelite/jewish history oral or written. I'm using scientific evidence, yes, scientific using scientific logic and reasoning... to explain the discrepancies in carbon dating, the erosion of the Grand canyon, the numerous 'missing link' found (falsified) and then later quietly removed, and other overwhelming evidence of young earth.
Huh.
Links?
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Re: About those Flood Legends
I may post them when i have time. It's a matter of believing the word of God or not.
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Re: About those Flood Legends
https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2024/04/12/was-noahs-flood-local-or-global/
This local flood theory rather than God's clear indication that it was worldwide did not come about until the 19th century, out of the idea of 'naturalism' which is Atheism.
[b]You see, evolutionary scientists believe the earth is millions of years old, largely because of the rock layers (this interpretation of the rock layers is where the idea of millions of years originated in Western “scientific” thought). But if there was a global flood, those rock layers would’ve all been ripped up, basically erasing the “evidence” of long ages! So evolutionists can’t have a global flood. So, really, Christians who say Noah’s flood was local are believing man’s ideas over God’s clear Word.
And God’s Word is clear about the extent of the flood! Consider that:
Over and over, Genesis 6–8 uses words like “all” and “every”—such as “all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered” (Genesis 7:19) and “all flesh died” (Genesis 7:21). Now, that doesn’t sound like a small, localized event! The words are overwhelmingly universal—almost as if God was emphasizing over and over, yes, this was really a global event!
Noah’s ark was huge. At 510 feet long, 51 feet high, and 85 feet wide, the ark was a massive ship designed to hold two of every kind of land animal, supplies for a whole year, and Noah and his family. Now, why would Noah need such a huge ark if the flood was just local? He and his family could’ve just packed up and left the area. And animals (and people!) outside the flood zone would’ve survived (which contradicts the biblical text), so why did two of every kind need to come to the ark?
After the flood, God said that the rainbow in the sky was to be understood as his promise that he would never again send another flood to “destroy the earth” like this one. But if Noah’s flood was just a local event . . . well, God lied. There’ve been many devastating local floods since the flood of Noah’s day. So what did God mean by saying he’d never again send another flood? It makes no sense!
Jesus compared his second coming to Noah’s flood. Jesus’ return isn’t going to be a localized event—it will be global, just as the flood was! And the Apostle Peter wrote in his second epistle that only eight people survived the flood. If the flood was a local event, people outside the area would’ve escaped and the Bible would be wrong.
The only reason some Christians say Noah’s flood was local is because of the belief in “millions of years” of history.[b]
This local flood theory rather than God's clear indication that it was worldwide did not come about until the 19th century, out of the idea of 'naturalism' which is Atheism.
[b]You see, evolutionary scientists believe the earth is millions of years old, largely because of the rock layers (this interpretation of the rock layers is where the idea of millions of years originated in Western “scientific” thought). But if there was a global flood, those rock layers would’ve all been ripped up, basically erasing the “evidence” of long ages! So evolutionists can’t have a global flood. So, really, Christians who say Noah’s flood was local are believing man’s ideas over God’s clear Word.
And God’s Word is clear about the extent of the flood! Consider that:
Over and over, Genesis 6–8 uses words like “all” and “every”—such as “all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered” (Genesis 7:19) and “all flesh died” (Genesis 7:21). Now, that doesn’t sound like a small, localized event! The words are overwhelmingly universal—almost as if God was emphasizing over and over, yes, this was really a global event!
Noah’s ark was huge. At 510 feet long, 51 feet high, and 85 feet wide, the ark was a massive ship designed to hold two of every kind of land animal, supplies for a whole year, and Noah and his family. Now, why would Noah need such a huge ark if the flood was just local? He and his family could’ve just packed up and left the area. And animals (and people!) outside the flood zone would’ve survived (which contradicts the biblical text), so why did two of every kind need to come to the ark?
After the flood, God said that the rainbow in the sky was to be understood as his promise that he would never again send another flood to “destroy the earth” like this one. But if Noah’s flood was just a local event . . . well, God lied. There’ve been many devastating local floods since the flood of Noah’s day. So what did God mean by saying he’d never again send another flood? It makes no sense!
Jesus compared his second coming to Noah’s flood. Jesus’ return isn’t going to be a localized event—it will be global, just as the flood was! And the Apostle Peter wrote in his second epistle that only eight people survived the flood. If the flood was a local event, people outside the area would’ve escaped and the Bible would be wrong.
The only reason some Christians say Noah’s flood was local is because of the belief in “millions of years” of history.[b]
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Re: About those Flood Legends
https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/flood-legends/myth-flood-myth/
To put it in simpler terms, the rule we find is that historical accounts may give rise to legends, but legends do not give rise to history.16 This clearly points to the Genesis account as the original, authentic version.
Think about that for a moment. We are being told by our secular friends that the Babylonian version is the source of the Genesis text. Yet the former is full of myth and embellishment, whereas Genesis is simple and sounds historical. And we have the clear testimony of history, both generally and in the ancient Near East specifically, which tells us that history may give rise to legends, but legends do not give rise to history. There is a “directionality” to myth. It goes in one direction. That direction is from simple accounts to embellished legends. This unmistakably points to Genesis as containing the original, and the epic a later derivative!
To put it in simpler terms, the rule we find is that historical accounts may give rise to legends, but legends do not give rise to history.16 This clearly points to the Genesis account as the original, authentic version.
Think about that for a moment. We are being told by our secular friends that the Babylonian version is the source of the Genesis text. Yet the former is full of myth and embellishment, whereas Genesis is simple and sounds historical. And we have the clear testimony of history, both generally and in the ancient Near East specifically, which tells us that history may give rise to legends, but legends do not give rise to history. There is a “directionality” to myth. It goes in one direction. That direction is from simple accounts to embellished legends. This unmistakably points to Genesis as containing the original, and the epic a later derivative!
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Re: About those Flood Legends
Lummy wrote:Yeah, maybe. I was thinking just the other day that to profess Christianity could get you declared insane by a "qualified" overeducated political operative -- an activist democrat. They will do that if allowed.
If that was a prediction you nailed it.
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MisterVeritis wrote:Despite the legends, there is no evidence to support a worldwide flood.
https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/global/worldwide-flood-evidence/
[b]Evidence 1: Fossils of sea creatures high above sea level due to the ocean waters having flooded over the continents
Evidence 2: Rapid burial of plants and animals
Evidence 3: Rapidly deposited sediment layers spread across vast areas
Evidence 4: Sediment transported long distances
Evidence 5: Rapid or no erosion between strata
Evidence 6: Many strata laid down in rapid succession
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MisterVeritis wrote:Right. If your god existed wouldn't there be evidence?Calypso Jones wrote:vege57 wrote:Calypso Jones wrote:Look at your evolutionists evidence for the depositing of dinosaur fossils.....world. woid. flud.
Flooding has nothing to do with evolution . Its an environmental issue
I'm not sure as to what your concerns are regarding fossils ?
Evolution is
historical science. it's not science at all...it's fantasy. It is not actual science which is observational science. But like evolution people would rather believe it than the what the evidence points to. It's hating a creator God and undermining his word and actions at any and every opportunity.
evidence of God or evidence of the Great Flood?
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Re: About those Flood Legends
HawkTheSlayer wrote:We gladly take about 2/3rds of America's flooding problems here. It makes for a great crop of wild( Atchafalaya Basin) crawfish almost every year, in addition to pond (rice field) crawfish.
Plus, ponds rely on wild caught crawfish to restock .
just think how big they'd be if your yearly flooding was worldwide.
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