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Post by vege57 Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:36 pm

2cent wrote:
Red Lily wrote:Just playing Devil's Advocate here  ...

If the Covid deaths aren't to be believed ie someone has a heart attack and they find out later he had Covid in his system it is listed as a Covid death.

The same could be said for vaxx deaths ie someone has a heart attack and they find out he has had the jab so it's called a jab death.

Both sides are skewed if you ask me.
And each just as annoying as the other.  Much of the blame, if you ask me, lies at the feet of those who wanted to ramp up the number of COVID deaths, to serve whatever handy purpose that would, in their minds.  Retaliating by doing the same, only with "Jab deaths" is no better, however.

Either way, I trust ZERO, ziltch, nada - nothing of any of the numbers from anyone.  

I've concluded, via evidence, however, that what is best for my survival chances is to steer clear of the vaccine.  If others want one, have at it.  Just don't insist I get one; nor insist in that idiotic mask.

In a couple of years covid will be like your seasonal influenza , with high vaccination rates, natural immunity and the death of the people that are sensitive to it or have pre existing conditions, it will be business as usual ., You can already see it going that way in a lot of countries, they are moving towards management rather than lock down, we are starting to see that happen in NZ, when everyone that wants a vaccine has had one , things will open up , and the unvaccinated can roll the dice, , In the short term there may be restaurants and bars that wont let the unvaxed use their facilities . that's just the reality ,,
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Post by vege57 Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:41 pm

2cent wrote:
vege57 wrote:
Red Lily wrote:Just playing Devil's Advocate here  ...

If the Covid deaths aren't to be believed ie someone has a heart attack and they find out later he had Covid in his system it is listed as a Covid death.

The same could be said for vaxx deaths ie someone has a heart attack and they find out he has had the jab so it's called a jab death.

Both sides are skewed if you ask me.

And there in lies the quandary . We have had around twenty odd deaths of peeps that have been vaccinated, But they dont say how many peeps have died during that period that weren't vaxed, Half have been discounted as being a result of vaccination, 10 are under investigation and 1 has been directly linked to the vaccine

This pan/plan/scam/whatever -demic will go down in history as the worst record keeping the entire history of medical records.  Some poor schlub in the future may take interest, much like the gumshoe of yore who can't let an unsolved crime go unsolved, and write of all the shocking details that weren't.  The horrid record-keeping.  The obvious willful "shredding" of facts.

There is a lot of political nuance in this pandemic, The left always think they know what's best for you, and how best to spend your money and how much they need to steal from to drive their agenda lol
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Post by Calypso Jones Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:54 pm

All evidence to me points to leftist deception. Look at the history of this fauci freak. He is NOT to be trusted.
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Post by Calypso Jones Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:24 am

If you aren’t dead yet from Covid, then you need the vax..if you survive that, you need a booster, and another… And if you refuse, we will take your income and drive you underground.

There thats what they are actually saying.

And when we get rid of the big middle, we will let the Hondurans and Mexicans serve us, as life as a servant is better than what their home offered.
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Post by Calypso Jones Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:14 am

Just found this.

Whistleblower secret recordings reveal doctors know dangers of this vaccine and they do it anyway.

Almost as if it is an experimental trial and they WANT TO DO IT TO OUR CHILDREN!!!!


https://noqreport.com/2021/09/20/federal-govt-whistleblower-goes-public-with-secret-recordings-government-doesnt-want-to-show-the-covid-vaccine-is-full-of-sht-shove-adverse-effect-rep/

Editor’s Commentary: Another day, another bombshell from Project Veritas. Today’s drop featured a Masters-certified Registered Nurse who works for Health and Human Services. Her secretly recorded videos will hopefully serve as inspiration for other God-fearing medical personnel to speak out about what they know.

Jodi O’Malley works at an Indian Medical Center in Arizona. She recorded doctors and other hospital staff discussing various cases of adverse reactions in which previously healthy people were injected with the experimental Covid-19 injections before becoming very sick.

Some of the people she recorded were quietly panning the so-called “vaccines” while others were supporting them. This has been the dynamic in hospitals across the country as those who have been indoctrinated into believing the vaccines are effective or bullied into staying silent about them apply pressure to those who want to blow the whistle.

O’Malley also recorded a situation in which it was revealed doctors were not allowed to prescribe Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid-19. This has been a common theme as well, especially in government-funded hospitals. The goal is to get everyone in America and around the globe “vaccinated” and treatments that include Ivermectin stand in the way.
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Post by Calypso Jones Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:16 am

Federal Govt Whistleblower Goes Public with Secret Recordings: ‘Government Doesn’t Want to Show the [COVID] Vaccine is Full of Sh*t’; ‘Shove’ Adverse Effect Reporting ‘Under the Mat’


Dr. Maria Gonzales, ER Doctor, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “All this is bullshit. Now, [a patient] probably [has] myocarditis due to the [COVID] vaccine. But now, they [government] are not going to blame the vaccine.”

Dr. Gonzales: “They [government] are not reporting [adverse COVID vaccine side effects]…They want to shove it under the mat.”
Deanna Paris, Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “It’s a shame they [government] are not treating people [with COVID] like they’re supposed to, like they should. I think they want people to die.”

Jodi O’Malley, Insider and Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: The COVID vaccine is “not doing what it’s purpose was.”

O’Malley: “I’ve seen dozens of people come in with adverse reactions.”

O’Malley: “If we [government] are not gathering [COVID vaccine] data and reporting it, then how are we going to say that this is safe and approved for use?”

O’Malley: I’m not afraid of blowing the whistle “because my faith lies in God and not man…You know, like what kind of person would I be if I knew all of this — this is evil at the highest level. You have the FDA, you have the CDC, that are both supposed to be protecting us, but they are under the government, and everything that we’ve done so far is unscientific.”

O’Malley: “At the end of the day, it’s about your health, and you can never get that back — and about your freedom, and about living in a peaceful society, and I’m like, ‘no.’ No. This is the hill that I will die on.”

[PHOENIX – Sept. 20, 2021] Project Veritas released the first video of its COVID vaccine investigative series today featuring an interview with U.S. Health and Human Services [HHS] insider, Jodi O’Malley, who works as a Registered Nurse at the local Indian Medical Center.


O’Malley told Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe about what has been going on at her federal government facility. She recorded her HHS colleagues discussing their concerns about the new COVID vaccine to corroborate her assertions:


Dr. Maria Gonzales, ER Doctor, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “The problem in here is that they are not doing the studies. People that had [COVID] and the people that have been vaccinated — they’re not doing any antibody testing.”

Jodi O’Malley, Insider and Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “Nope.”

Dr. Gonzales: “Everybody is quiet with that. Why?”

O’Malley: “Now, you got this guy in Room Four who got his second dose of the [COVID] vaccine on Tuesday and has been short of breath. Okay? Now his BNP is elevated. D diver elevated, ALT, all his liver enzymes are elevated. His PTPTINR is elevated.”

Dr. Gonzales: “He’s probably got myocarditis!”

O’Malley: “Yes!”

Dr. Gonzales: “All this is bullshit. Now probably myocarditis due to the vaccine.”

O’Malley: “Right.”

Dr. Gonzales: “But now, they [government] are not going to blame the vaccine.”

O’Malley: “Well and you know what — but he has an obligation to report that doesn’t he? It happened right — what is it — sixty days after if you see anything?”

Dr. Gonzales: “They have got to.”

O’Malley: “But how many are reporting?”

Dr. Gonzales: “They are not reporting.”

O’Malley: “Right!”

Dr. Gonzales: “Because they want to shove it under the mat.”

O’Malley explained this conversation in detail during her interview with O’Keefe:

James O’Keefe, Project Veritas founder: “In this instance with Dr. Gonzales, what patient was she referring to? Without saying the name.”

Jodi O’Malley, Insider and Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services:“She was referring to a thirty-something-year-old patient that had congestive heart failure.”

O’Keefe: “Congestive heart failure? In that particular patient’s case, it was not reported?”

O’Malley: “No.”

O’Keefe: “Were there other instances that they didn’t report? Or just this one?”

O’Malley: “Yeah, many.”

O’Keefe: “How many did you see?”

O’Malley: “Oh, I’ve seen dozens of people come in with adverse reactions [to the COVID vaccine].”



O’Malley: “So, what the responsibility on everyone is — is to gather that data and report it. If we’re not gathering [COVID vaccine] data and reporting it, then how are we going to say that this is safe and approved for use?”

The whistleblower also recorded Dr. Gonzales’ disagreement with another HHS doctor pertaining to the research and reporting behind the COVID vaccine:

Jodi O’Malley, Insider and Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “So how come after 18 months, we haven’t had any research? Isn’t that fishy to you?”

Dr. Maria Gonzales, ER Doctor, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “It does — it is fishy.”

O’Malley: “It’s super fishy.”

Dr. Dale McGee, ER Doctor, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “It’s not that it hasn’t been done. It hasn’t been published, that’s why.”

Dr. Gonzales: “It hasn’t probably been done because the government doesn’t want to show that the darn [COVID] vaccine is full of sh*t.”

O’Malley spoke to Deanna Paris, who works as a Registered Nurse at the same federal government facility, to compare what they both have witnessed regarding COVID vaccine adverse effects:

Deanna Paris, Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “It’s a shame they [government] are not treating people [with COVID] like they’re supposed to, like they should. I think they want people to die.”

Jodi O’Malley, Insider and Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “How many have you seen that have gotten vaccinated here?”

Paris: “That got sick from the side effects? A lot.”

O’Malley: “A lot!”

Paris: “Have you seen it too?”

O’Malley: “Yeah, and I’m like, who’s writing the VAERS reports?”

Paris: “Nobody because it takes over a half hour to write the damn thing.”

The insider told O’Keefe what led her to blow the whistle on the federal government.

“What prompted me to do this was when I was House Supervisor one night, and one of my coworkers had taken the [COVID] vaccine two weeks ago, and she didn’t want to. She went throughout this entire pandemic working in the intensive care unit, which pretty much was a COVID unit,” O’Malley said.

“She didn’t want to take [the COVID vaccine] because of her religious beliefs and she was coerced into taking it. It’s like nobody — nobody should have to decide between their livelihood, being ‘a part of the team in the hospital,’ or take the [COVID] vaccine.”

O’Malley said it is more important to shine a light on corruption than to fear retaliation from the powers that be:

James O’Keefe, Project Veritas founder: “What would you say to people who are in a position where they can do something?”

Jodi O’Malley, Insider and Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “I say that we have to do something. Right now, what is plaguing this country is the spirit of fear.”

O’Keefe: “Are you afraid?”

O’Malley: “It’s my career, you know? It’s how I help people. But am I afraid? I wouldn’t necessarily say I am afraid because my faith lies in God and not man. So, I have two older kids that are on their own, and I have a twelve-year-old at home that I care for on my own, but you know, what kind of person would I be if I knew all of this — this is evil. This is evil at the highest level. You have the FDA, you have the CDC, that are both supposed to be protecting us, but they are under the government, and everything that we’ve done so far is unscientific.”

O’Keefe: “Are you afraid they’re going to retaliate against you?”

O’Malley: “Yeah. I’m a federal employee. What other federal employees do you see coming out?”

O’Keefe: “But you put your faith in God.”

O’Malley: “Amen. At the end of the day, it’s about your health, and you can never get that back — and about your freedom, and about living in a peaceful society, and I’m like, ‘no.’ No. This is the hill that I will die on.”

Project Veritas encourages more brave whistleblowers like O’Malley to come forward with information on the COVID vaccine by emailing VeritasTips@protonmail.com.


More videos exposing government health agencies and pharmaceutical companies will be released by Project Veritas imminently. To receive these upcoming videos directly into your email inbox, click here.

About Project Veritas

James O’Keefe established Project Veritas in 2010 as a non-profit journalism enterprise to continue his undercover reporting work. Today, Project Veritas investigates and exposes corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud, and other misconduct in both public and private institutions to achieve a more ethical and transparent society and to engage in litigation to: protect, defend and expand human and civil rights secured by law, specifically First Amendment rights including promoting the free exchange of ideas in a digital world; combat and defeat censorship of any ideology; promote truthful reporting; and defend freedom of speech and association issues including the right to anonymity. O’Keefe serves as the CEO and Chairman of the Board so that he can continue to lead and teach his fellow journalists, as well as protect and nurture the Project Veritas culture.

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Plandemic, Voter Fraud, Afghanistan: All Parts of The Great Reset

If you still consider “conspiracy theorist” to be a pejorative, you’re not paying enough attention.
What do Covid-19, 2020 (and beyond) election fraud, and our disastrous abandoning of American citizens in Afghanistan have to do with one another? They’re all parts of the globalist plan to usher in a new era of Neo-Marxism in a depopulated world. This is The Great Reset unfolding before our eyes, and the only way we can stop it (other than through constant prayer) is to stand together and spread the truth.

Covid-19’s attachment to The Great Reset is obvious, though we continue to post about it daily. Voter fraud is a bit less obvious but nonetheless easy to recognize when we understand that people like Joe Biden, Justin Trudeau, and Emmanuel Macron are pushing to “Build Back Better” under the precepts of Neo-Marxism.

The Afghanistan betrayal in August, 2021, is harder to associate with The Great Reset, but it’s definitely just as attached. We can see this is the unwillingness of the Biden regime to extend the deadline to withdraw despite American lives put clearly in harm’s way. We can see it in the needlessly abandoned military equipment that was conspicuously left intact; disabling a Black Hawk takes minutes but they were given to the Taliban in pristine working condition. Then, there’s the pallets of hundred dollar bills left for them. If you think all of this was just irresponsible governance, you probably think Barack Obama is out of politics, too.

Weakening America’s standing in the world and empowering the Chinese Communist Party and others to engage fully with our enemies in a globalist cabal are beneficial to the architects of The Great Reset, and both happened in one fell swoop in August.


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Post by jirqoadai Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:27 am

CJ? youre not serious are you? Fucci is not to be trusted? hahahahaha. a little liberal there arent you? for you spelled executed on the spot wrong....... agin.
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Post by Calypso Jones Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:38 am

A nurse's resignation letter. She makes excellent points. This is why people are not trusting doctors and hospitals. This is why doctors are saying, 'Stay out of hospitals at all costs.'

Here it is. From the Horse's mouth if you will.


Why I Am Leaving My Nursing Job
Tuesday, September 21, 2021


CHI Memorial, Dignity Health, and All Administrators in Chattanooga, TN and throughout our companies, the following letter is my heart felt forced termination for not complying to allow, against my own will, the injection of an illegally mandated vaccine under Emergency Use Authorization.

First, I would like to express I have enjoyed working in my unit for the last three years. We have a culture of helping and supporting each other through the best and worst of times. I worked through the 2020 COVID pandemic when we did not have proper PPE. Our facility’s PPE policies were changed several times to omit use of PPE used with infectious diseases we once would take protection from when encountering. Our loop masks that we wore for the entire 12-hour shift came in a box for months that stated on the side “not for medical use.” In the beginning of the pandemic, we were not afforded N95 masks unless we worked in the COVID units then we were able to have 1 N95 mask, we were handed a brown paper lunch bag with a sheet of paper to log each shift we wore it for. After 7 shifts of wearing the same N95 mask we could turn it in for a new one while the used one was sent for sterilization. Loop masks and N 95 masks are only made for a one-time use, but we knew PPE was limited and took what we could get.


Each day I worked I had no idea what I would be walking into or what disease I might take home to my own family and children, BUT I showed up and worked tirelessly with my work family. Even through months of mandatory pandemic overtime I WORKED without proper PPE and without compensated payment for exposure. I was able to work in the COVID ICU to see which PPE they used and the process of donning, doffing, Code Blue in COVID rooms, and the dependency they had on each other because otherwise we could not make it.

There were signs made that sat in front of our hospital that spelled out “Heroes work here.” Administrators met us at the door coming and going from our shift cheering for us. We had catered food delivered. I remember one morning in particular administrators met us at the door to give us small bags of candy just before Christmas 2020, then we were delivered a $15 gift card through the mail at home but paid our own taxes on our paychecks. Honestly why did you not keep your candy, cheering, and signs and just pay the small taxes for each gift card? I did not feel like a hero at all, I felt expendable just as I do now. Administrators would not come to our units, JACHO would not come into hospitals, and even patients were terrified to show up at the hospital to receive needed care. Many nurses, respiratory therapists, cleaning staff, and others left us in 2020 either to leave the bedside all together or to travel, but I was there, and I worked.

Secondly, the mandated vaccine. I am educated with an Associates Degree in Nursing and will complete my Bachelor of Science in Nursing next month. I have bedside experience not only with infectious COVID positive patients, but also post COVID patients or what some have coined the phrase as COVID long haulers. If anyone is educated and informed enough to make a conscious decision of medical treatment, vaccination, or health plan I am 100% qualified to make that decision for myself and my children. I am a patient and staff advocate. We at the bedside educate each patient, as it is their right, of their care plan and medications. Our patients have a RIGHT to refuse any treatment or medication for whatever reason they choose, and I will stand beside them on their educated decision. If a patient chose to refuse lifesaving treatment and would rather go home to pass peacefully then I support their decision, this is what we do! I do not force treatment on patients against their will because this is against the law, unethical, and immoral. I must also advocate for myself too because no one else obviously will.

One of our Dr.’s came to our unit about a month ago to answer questions regarding the EUA vaccines and explained the mRNA process of how it enters and builds immunity in our bodies, but he left out information that the mRNA base is made of aborted fetal tissue. I NEVER thought I would see the day that working for a CATHOLIC hospital where I can pray with my patients that I would have to defend my judgement and religious beliefs of not wanting a forced aborted baby tissue based medical treatment. Therefore, I will not. I simply say NO and no means no.

Third, there is no FDA approved mRNA COVID vaccine available at this time, and I am very aware that Comirnaty is not even being produced for use in the United States to date. The vaccines being administered remain under Emergency Use Authorization with NO information on the package insert and NO way to obtain compensation for those that experience adverse effects, permanent damage, or loss of life. Also, I know that our employer does not cover or insure this either secondary to taking these vaccines. The only way for anyone to be held accountable is by accepting the injection of Comirnaty, the FDA approved vaccine, that is NOT AVAILABLE. Facts remain that this would be a great place to build a hospital one day, with values of Excellence, Reverence, Compassion, Integrity, and Inclusion because as it stands today the only staff upholding these values are the soldiers in the trenches, or bedside, NOT the administrators sitting at their desks deciding an unlawful vaccine is best for ME to place in my body for immunity. God gave me an excellent immune system and it builds antibodies all by itself.

Also, please do not try to tell me that this is for the peace of mind of my patients and their families because I have held the hand of a dying man, cried with his wife, and consoled his daughter as he took his last breath. All three of them were fully vaccinated, he was dying from COVID, his wife had just recovered, and NO ONE asked me if I was vaccinated. When it comes down to it this your business, not a loving hospital that I thought I was employed by.

Lastly, there will be a day coming soon when more staff walk away, get terminated, or those left behind after the mass exodus become weary, when there will be no more nurses or staff to hire. If this company thinks it is so bad now because there is a “bed shortage” when we all know its a staffing shortage, there are darker days ahead. During all this pandemic if CHI Memorial and Dignity Health would have just taken care of those loyal to them then you would not be facing have to pay travel nurses up to $110 an hour to fill my shoes. My last date of employment, caring for patients and families, precepting residents, and contributing to all the awards this hospital receives will be October 4, 2021.

Sincerely Outraged and Grieving,

Maria Wright RN

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Post by Calypso Jones Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:43 am

This is why your Doctor goes along with the Scamdemic.

https://noqreport.com/2021/09/22/heres-why-doctors-go-along-with-covid-panic-porn-and-cdc-prescriptions/

I recently had a conversation with a reasonably well informed writer who simply missed the real reasons why most practicing physicians go along with the Fauci Fraud. As a public service, I will attempt to fill in a few gaps. But first, I must define the Fraud.

There are two basic legs to the Fraud. First is the idea that the Centers for Disease Control is in any way concerned with a mission related to its name. The failure of the CDC to in any way endorse any treatment that did not emanate from its exalted halls should give us our first glint of clarity.

There are literally millions of physicians around the world, and the great bulk of them truly wish to treat their patients well. Among those are thousands of researchers, a number far in excess of those at the CDC, NIAID, NIH and other alphabet soup government agencies. The very idea that outside researchers are incapable of discovering anything useful without the help of the bureaucrats in DC is hubris of the highest order. And it prevents the CDC, FDA, or any other such agency from considering the idea that maybe, just possibly, there might be intelligent life down here. Mount Olympus cannot be threatened.

The Second Leg of the Fraud is less visible to the naked eye, but much more powerful. If I wrote this before I retired, I would be called before the Board of my group and told in no uncertain terms to “Shut T… F…. Up!” I might even be assessed a financial penalty with several zeroes after the “1.” That’s a serious impairment of my pursuit of happiness.


The reason for my group’s dislike is more than the fact that I might be an irritant. They may actually agree with what I have to say. But they simply cannot afford for me to say it. That’s right, as a practicing physician in a group, my freedom of speech can become very expensive… to the group.

My group cared for patients of all descriptions, with roughly half of them on Medicare and another batch on Medicaid. Both programs are ultimately managed by the Feds, one of the most humorless groups on the planet. They write a whole bunch of rules on how you have to document everything you do. If you didn’t document it correctly, it didn’t happen, and you won’t get paid. But that’s not the half of it.

Suppose you have one of those patients brought in by the ambulance from under the bridge. Their only clothes are the ones they are wearing, and they don’t have two nickels to rub together. It’s more than obvious that this surgery for bowel obstruction will be a charity case. Before Medicare, you’d simply write it off as your good neighbor duty. Now you don’t get a choice.

CMMS (the actual administrative agency) requires you to send a bill. Twice. Or maybe three times. Whatever it takes to turn the bill into bad debt. Then you have to send it to a collection agency. Your only alternative is for your group to bring it up in its Board meeting and declare it a write-off that gets noted in the minutes.


All this rigmarole serves no purpose, and you knew that before you got to this sentence. But CMMS has a sinister side. If you do the case for free (which you did before you spent that useless money on billing and collection), CMMS will define that as your “usual and customary” bill for an exploratory laparotomy. Since your U&C is now zero, you can’t ever bill more than that for an ex lap in the future. But what does that have to do with Ivermectin? I’m glad you asked.

U&C bills are just one of hundreds of rules that CMMS enforces. Another is “Pay for Performance.” Basically, P-f-P requires you to check a host of boxes when taking care of patients. If you didn’t get that IV antibiotic in 20 minutes before the incision, you failed P-f-P and may not get paid. The hospital won’t get paid to take care of the patient if there’s a complication. So let us suppose that you use Ivermectin to treat a COVID patient as they arrive in the hospital?

Ivermectin isn’t on the Medicare/Medicaid approved list of medications for COVID. Your hospital pharmacy will call you up and give you grief. After wasting a lot of time getting them to finally let you have it, you’ve had to cancel half of your office day.

The next day, you’ll get a visit from a coder who will tell you that you didn’t use the approved treatment protocol and put the hospital in jeopardy because you flunked P-f-P. By the way, that “coder” is the person who “helps” you use the proper ICD (billing) code for whatever the patient has in order for the hospital to make the most money. But that’s not the worst of it.


Because you flunked P-f-P, that waves a red flag in front of the CMMS bulls, and you’re about to get gored. They will wonder what other bad things you’ve done. As soon as they find one, it gets flagged as “Medicare fraud,” and they will bill you for twice what you got paid as a penalty.

Can you guess how many other instances of fraud they’ll find if they look hard? Do you have to ask why my partners would get upset if I published while I was still in practice? By the way, CMMS can go two years back as they look for your crimes. They can ultimately take your house, your car, and your wife’s poodle while they’re at it.

Let’s change the scene. Suppose you’re in private practice. You can’t give Ivermectin because the feds will key in on it if your patient’s on Medicare or Medicaid. So you decide to take care of them off the books. They pay you cash and all is well. Not! You now took a private payment for Medicare covered service. That will get you barred from seeing another Medicare patient for two years.

Let’s forget all the regulatory traps. You’re conscientious, and try to do the best for your patients. But you’re busy, and can’t keep up with the flood of papers on all the various COVID bits. So you wear a mask, have your patients wear masks, and do a lot of telemedicine. You keep up on the latest through Medscape and the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Reporter. You should be good? Not! MMWR is put out by the CDC, and they won’t say the first good word about HCQ or Ivermectin. Medscape is a little better, but not much. And all the specialty societies are toeing the line. Can we guess why?


Any doctor who actually reads the studies, or follows any of the protocols published by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons will see a lot of peer pressure to stop. The financial risks may be extreme. It takes a spine of steel to stand up to the authoritarian orthodoxy.

Ted Noel MD is a retired Anesthesiologist/Intensivist who posts on social media as DoctorTed and @vidzette.
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Red Lily wrote:Just playing Devil's Advocate here  ...

If the Covid deaths aren't to be believed ie someone has a heart attack and they find out later he had Covid in his system it is listed as a Covid death.

The same could be said for vaxx deaths ie someone has a heart attack and they find out he has had the jab so it's called a jab death.

Both sides are skewed if you ask me.
'except' those who are anti-covid vaxx do not have control over the stats.
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