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Post by Sprintcyclist Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:17 am

trumps endless claims 'the election was stolen.'
he has lost 60 court cases on that lie.


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Post by Sprintcyclist Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:19 am

he lied about the size if his apartment.
hence a whopping fine

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2022/09/21/how-forbes-exposed-trumps-lies-about-the-size-of-his-penthouse/?sh=11bf4fc58ec6

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Post by Sprintcyclist Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:25 am

he lied about the value of mar-a-largo

............. "There is no legal gray area surrounding the permanent nature of the deed restrictions," Engoron wrote. "Accordingly, there can be no mistake that Donald Trump's valuation of Mar-a-Lago from 2011- 2021 was fraudulent." ...........

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-mar-a-lago-valuation-civil-fraud-verdict-2024-2


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Post by Red Lily Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:51 am

Sprintcyclist wrote:he lied about the value of mar-a-largo

.............  "There is no legal gray area surrounding the permanent nature of the deed restrictions," Engoron wrote. "Accordingly, there can be no mistake that Donald Trump's valuation of Mar-a-Lago from 2011- 2021 was fraudulent."          ...........

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-mar-a-lago-valuation-civil-fraud-verdict-2024-2


So did the judge.


Sprintcyclist wrote:he lied about the size if his apartment.
hence a whopping fine

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2022/09/21/how-forbes-exposed-trumps-lies-about-the-size-of-his-penthouse/?sh=11bf4fc58ec6

It's business and most people tend to inflate things a little when getting a business loan.  The bank did their due diligence, were satisfied and loaned him the money.  The money was repaid in full with interest.  Who was harmed?  No-one!

Seriously, get over it.
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Post by Calypso Jones Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:08 am

A house just sold somewhere maybe florida.  38 million...38 millions and Engoron who is not an appraiser says 18 million what Mar a lago is worth.

https://nypost.com/2023/03/07/this-bay-point-miami-home-just-sold-for-a-record-38m/
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Post by Sprintcyclist Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:01 am

Red Lily wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:he lied about the value of mar-a-largo

.............  "There is no legal gray area surrounding the permanent nature of the deed restrictions," Engoron wrote. "Accordingly, there can be no mistake that Donald Trump's valuation of Mar-a-Lago from 2011- 2021 was fraudulent."          ...........

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-mar-a-lago-valuation-civil-fraud-verdict-2024-2


So did the judge.


Sprintcyclist wrote:he lied about the size if his apartment.
hence a whopping fine

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2022/09/21/how-forbes-exposed-trumps-lies-about-the-size-of-his-penthouse/?sh=11bf4fc58ec6

It's business and most people tend to inflate things a little when getting a business loan.  The bank did their due diligence, were satisfied and loaned him the money.  The money was repaid in full with interest.  Who was harmed?  No-one!

Seriously, get over it.

no-one has to lose money for fraud to have occurred. Inflating values a bit is irrelevant and not fraud.
Someone asked me to provide examples of trumps lies.

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Post by Sprintcyclist Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:06 am

Calypso Jones wrote:A house just sold somewhere maybe florida.  38 million...38 millions and Engoron who is not an appraiser says 18 million what Mar a lago is worth.

https://nypost.com/2023/03/07/this-bay-point-miami-home-just-sold-for-a-record-38m/

mar-a-argo has many deed restrictions of a permanent nature, it requires a huge maintenance and is a commercial property.
It is entirely different to John Malones'  22,057-square-foot home on over nine acres of land with Atlantic and Intracoastal views.
trump said his was worth over a billion


Mar-a-Lago is deed restricted such that it cannot be used for any purpose other than as a private club.
Consequently, appraisers value the property on the basis of its annual net operating income, rather than the resale or reconstruction value as a home, as would be the case for an unrestricted property.

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Post by hurricanehook Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:01 am

The biggest lie of all from Biden and his lackies: "The border is secure"
https://youtu.be/Fh9fpFmltQs
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Post by Casey Jones Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:24 pm

Sprintcyclist wrote:
Calypso Jones wrote:A house just sold somewhere maybe florida.  38 million...38 millions and Engoron who is not an appraiser says 18 million what Mar a lago is worth.

https://nypost.com/2023/03/07/this-bay-point-miami-home-just-sold-for-a-record-38m/

mar-a-argo has many deed restrictions of a permanent nature, it requires a huge maintenance and is a commercial property.
It is entirely different to John Malones'  22,057-square-foot home on over nine acres of land with Atlantic and Intracoastal views.
trump said his was worth over a billion


Mar-a-Lago is deed restricted such that it cannot be used for any purpose other than as a private club.
Consequently, appraisers value the property on the basis of its annual net operating income, rather than the resale or reconstruction value as a home, as would be the case for an unrestricted property.

You've seen the deed?

Show us a copy of it.

Otherwise...all you're telling us is what the harpies on The View are telling the stooges that watch them.

Which I guess is a service, because otherwise we'd never know.
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Post by Sprintcyclist Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:28 pm

hurricanehook wrote:The biggest lie of all from Biden and his lackies: "The border is secure"
https://youtu.be/Fh9fpFmltQs

That is one of the things that really puts me off any pollie, when they say a lie.
If they said "The border security is failing badly" I would be much happier with them.

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