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Post by HawkTheSlayer Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:30 pm


Catholic bishops could consider whether Biden should receive Communion

The White House has described Biden as a 'devout Catholic'
By Audrey Conklin | Fox News


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The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) is holding a meeting in June to consider whether its Committee on Doctrine should draft a document clarifying the church's stance on abortion.


The meeting and consideration come as President Biden continues to support abortion rights while also claiming the title of a "devout Catholic."

While the USCCB deferred comment on exactly what would be discussed at the meeting or what any potential documents may contain, a spokesperson did confirm that the meeting will be held on June 4.

The spokesperson added that it would be premature to say exactly what any prospective documents discussed at the meeting would say or cover.

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If the committee does decide to draft any kind of document at the June meeting, it likely would not be presented to the full body of bishops for discussion and a vote until November, the spokesperson said.

Certain bishops have made comments about clarifying the church's abortion position and whether or not the president can receive Communion while also abortion rights, signaling that discussion of the issue may be brought up at the meeting later this summer.

Such a stance, by a public figure, is "a grave moral evil," according to Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, Kansas, who chairs the USCCB’s Committee on Pro-Life Activities and believes it’s necessary to publicly rebuke Biden on the issue.

"Because President Biden is Catholic, it presents a unique problem for us," Naumann told The Associated Press. "It can create confusion. ... How can he say he’s a devout Catholic and he’s doing these things that are contrary to the church’s teaching?"

He added later that the president "doesn’t have the authority to teach what it means to be Catholic."

"Whether intentional or not, he’s trying to usurp our authority," Naumann told the outlet.

Such a document, if approved, would make clear the USCCB’s view that Biden and other Catholic public figures with similar viewpoints should not present themselves for Communion, Naumann said.

San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone told the AP that "there's a growing sense of urgency" regarding the church's stance on abortion, which he described as "not just one among many important issues" but "a direct attack on human life."


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The discussion stems from USCCB President Archbishop José Gomez of Los Angeles, who decided to form a working group in November of 2020 to address the "complex and difficult situation" posed by Biden’s stances on abortion and other issues that differ from official church teaching.

Before disbanding, the group proposed the drafting of a new document addressing the issue of Communion — a project assigned to the doctrine committee.

A two-thirds majority would be needed for work to proceed, Naumann said. But even critics of the initiative, such as Bishop John Stowe of Lexington, Kentucky, predict the endeavor will win overwhelming approval.


Stowe is among a relatively small group of U.S. bishops who worry that the USCCB’s emphasis on abortion is undercutting Pope Francis’ exhortations for the church to also stress such issues as climate change, immigration and inequality. Stowe also worries that the U.S. bishops are missing a chance to find common ground with Biden on such issues.

"If a politician is targeted as a negative example by his own church, that sets a sad context in which the church can deal with this Catholic president," Stowe told the AP. "It contributes to the polarization of the church and of society."


The top prelates of the jurisdictions where Biden frequently worships — Bishop W. Francis Malooly of Wilmington, Delaware, and Cardinal Wilton Gregory of Washington, D.C. — have made clear that Biden is welcome to receive Communion at churches they oversee.

The Vatican has not ruled on the specific matter of Communion and politicians supporting abortion in a major teaching document, though the church’s in-house canon law says people in a situation of persistent sin shouldn’t be allowed to receive Communion. It has also issued guidelines for the behavior of Catholics in political life exhorting them to uphold principles consistent with church doctrine.


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Post by Jen Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:10 pm

This is, or should be, a huge issue for the Roman Catholic church.  For a long time now the RCC has been silently approving abortion .... because many Democrats and Democrat leaders (Biden, Pelosi, et al) are Catholics and vote for legal abortion.

Their taking of communion cements the church as pro abortion.  

The RCC has been silently condoning egregious sins among it's high-ranking members for a long time now.  Pedophilia, abortion, possibly even human trafficking.  The church needs to either put up or shut up.  

With some of the abominations that the current Pope has given as edict, I seriously don't believe we will see any improvement.

That said, Protestant churches in apostasy have no room to toot their own self-righteous horn these days either.
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Post by RV Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:20 pm

Jen wrote:This is, or should be, a huge issue for the Roman Catholic church.  For a long time now the RCC has been silently approving abortion .... because many Democrats and Democrat leaders (Biden, Pelosi, et al) are Catholics and vote for legal abortion.

Their taking of communion cements the church as pro abortion.  

The RCC has been silently condoning egregious sins among it's high-ranking members for a long time now.  Pedophilia, abortion, possibly even human trafficking.  The church needs to either put up or shut up.  

With some of the abominations that the current Pope has given as edict, I seriously don't believe we will see any improvement.

That said, Protestant churches in apostasy have no room  to toot their own  self-righteous horn these days either.

The Bible tells us that "none are righteous, no not one" so, I'm not sure who's doing the "self-righteous horn" tooting but, all have went astray and all have sinned. Having said that, the church in general has been wishy-washy regarding what is and what is not a "sin" even though the Bible is quite clear about it. There is absolutely nothing in my Bible which in any way would give humans the right, privilege nor responsibility to forgive nor atone for the sins as listed in the Bible because no one is worthy to die on the cross for all except Jesus Christ the Son. The sacrifice of Jesus was complete, full and enough for all humans and for all sins. The fact that a church, ANY church is making a decision on whether sin took place when it clearly did, is tantamount to claiming that Jesus' death was insufficient.
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Post by Lummy Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:55 pm

Wouldn't that mean there's nothing to do and no judgement to make but to hand out weapons of choice for urban and suburban dwellers' seasonal sport hunting of other urban and suburban dwellers?

There have been a few movies with sequels about this, but I can't think of a one.
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Post by RV Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:24 pm

Lummy wrote:Wouldn't that mean there's nothing to do and no judgement to make but to hand out weapons of choice for urban and suburban dwellers' seasonal sport hunting of other urban and suburban dwellers?

There have been a few movies with sequels about this, but I can't think of a one.

Absolutely, I would be the first in line... As long as you're paying for all of those "weapons" being handed out!
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Post by Calypso Jones Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:31 pm

do you think Joe really cares.
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Post by RV Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:29 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:do you think Joe really cares.  

Does he care? It all depends. Politically, I bet he does, otherwise, no he couldn't care less.
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