As Conservative Christians we MUST pray for wicked evil leaders

Calypso Jones wrote:Just thinking...do you realize the type of govt and the culture at the time Jesus was born into it.  I think we think that the time of Jesus' birth was very primitive..after all...he was born in a barn and placed in a manger.    But Rome had control of a good part of the world at that time and life was brutal.  The roman put no value on human life.    Roman entertainment was lewd and vulgar and the arenas were awash with blood for the delight and distraction of the masses.

Pretty much like life today...

Casey Jones wrote:I would suggest that those who feel compelled, pray FOR the nation.

Not for the evil, morally-bankrupt, graft-enriched, self-designated Elites that are destroying it.  Let their money watch for their souls.  We have more pressing needs and affairs.

The 'morally-bankrupt, graft-enriched, self-designated elites' is subjective and depends on who and what you are comparing them to. I may agree with you on some, possibly disagree with you on others. Because I'm a sinner saved by grace, I am not pure nor sinless enough to be the judge of who is and who is not. That is why I say that ALL should be prayed for rather than just some.

No one 'deserves' nor has 'earned' salvation, it is by grace alone based upon the mercy and goodness of God.

RV wrote:

Casey Jones wrote:I would suggest that those who feel compelled, pray FOR the nation.

Not for the evil, morally-bankrupt, graft-enriched, self-designated Elites that are destroying it.  Let their money watch for their souls.  We have more pressing needs and affairs.

The 'morally-bankrupt, graft-enriched, self-designated elites' is subjective and depends on who and what you are comparing them to. I may agree with you on some, possibly disagree with you on others. Because I'm a sinner saved by grace, I am not pure nor sinless enough to be the judge of who is and who is not. That is why I say that ALL should be prayed for rather than just some.

No one 'deserves' nor has 'earned' salvation, it is by grace alone based upon the mercy and goodness of God.

I judge not by their political alignment with me; but by their adherence to basic morality. Such as, honesty.

Such as, performing a duty faithfully - not taking graft.

Such as, holding a set of morals and values; being honest about what they are; and using them as a guide for personal actions.

I happen to think that the aims of the American Conservative movement are moral ones. "Thou Shalt Not Covet." Meaning, public handouts of all sorts - and promises of them; and using them to buy votes - all are evil.

Thou Shalt Not Kill. Not your neighbor, not your not-yet-born child; not persons in other nations, when the vainglorious leaders want Moar War.

Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness. Not about what government officials were paying to have done in Wuhan; not about the efficacy of these Jabs. Not about the PURPOSE of those Jabs - apparently, a DNA-modification experiment.

Thou Shalt Have No Other gods before Me. As a secular person, this one gives me trouble; but WE SEE, from these creepy clowns in Davos; from their lieutenants salted in governments, here, all over the globe...of the sick fascination of Kaiser Klaus and his queer research advisor, for "Transhumanism." We shall be as gods, knowing all things. Just a little bit of genetic-code modification. Here, citizen - you, first.

Else you're helping to spread the COE-vidd.

You take away ALL these violations of the Commandments - and many of these violations were done in executing lethal acts - take them away, and there is little for illiberal "Liberals" to stand on. That is what they ARE ABOUT, in some cases openly, in other issues, such as Depopulation, covertly.

I shall not pray for them.

https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/prayer/a-powerful-prayer-for-your-enemies.html

Calypso Jones wrote:Just thinking...do you realize the type of govt and the culture at the time Jesus was born into it.  I think we think that the time of Jesus' birth was very primitive..after all...he was born in a barn and placed in a manger.    But Rome had control of a good part of the world at that time and life was brutal.  The roman put no value on human life.    Roman entertainment was lewd and vulgar and the arenas were awash with blood for the delight and distraction of the masses.

Very true! Jesus' time was brutal, primitive and vulgar. If you follow the history of Israel and what has happened in the past, you see God working. As Hamas slaughtered and raped Israelis, it may look like God was not paying attention but, He was.

Today it may look like the evil prosper but, their reward is here, Christians reward is in heaven. Their "reward" only lasts as long as they live, Christians reward lasts for eternity.

Praying for your enemies is why Christian societies are being subverted or falling apart. It doesn't seem to be working. Christians are all about "loving thy enemy" and "turning the other cheek", and more often than not, all it does is project weakness and cowardice. The Marxists sense it like sharks sense blood in the water.

Muslims, on the other hand, don't take any shit from people trying to corrupt their countries. They know how to deal with subversives and agitators. If Christians acted more like Muslims and less like doormats for globohomo degeneracy, they'd be more respected and taken more seriously.

Casey Jones wrote:

RV wrote:

Casey Jones wrote:I would suggest that those who feel compelled, pray FOR the nation.

Not for the evil, morally-bankrupt, graft-enriched, self-designated Elites that are destroying it.  Let their money watch for their souls.  We have more pressing needs and affairs.

The 'morally-bankrupt, graft-enriched, self-designated elites' is subjective and depends on who and what you are comparing them to. I may agree with you on some, possibly disagree with you on others. Because I'm a sinner saved by grace, I am not pure nor sinless enough to be the judge of who is and who is not. That is why I say that ALL should be prayed for rather than just some.

No one 'deserves' nor has 'earned' salvation, it is by grace alone based upon the mercy and goodness of God.

I judge not by their political alignment with me; but by their adherence to basic morality.  Such as, honesty.

Such as, performing a duty faithfully - not taking graft.

Such as, holding a set of morals and values; being honest about what they are; and using them as a guide for personal actions.

I happen to think that the aims of the American Conservative movement are moral ones.  "Thou Shalt Not Covet."  Meaning, public handouts of all sorts - and promises of them; and using them to buy votes - all are evil.

Thou Shalt Not Kill.  Not your neighbor, not your not-yet-born child; not persons in other nations, when the vainglorious leaders want Moar War.

Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness.  Not about what government officials were paying to have done in Wuhan; not about the efficacy of these Jabs.  Not about the PURPOSE of those Jabs - apparently, a DNA-modification experiment.

Thou Shalt Have No Other gods before Me.  As a secular person, this one gives me trouble; but WE SEE, from these creepy clowns in Davos; from their lieutenants salted in governments, here, all over the globe...of the sick fascination of Kaiser Klaus and his queer research advisor, for "Transhumanism."  We shall be as gods, knowing all things.  Just a little bit of genetic-code modification.  Here, citizen - you, first.

Else you're helping to spread the COE-vidd.

You take away ALL these violations of the Commandments - and many of these violations were done in executing lethal acts - take them away, and there is little for illiberal "Liberals" to stand on.  That is what they ARE ABOUT, in some cases openly, in other issues, such as Depopulation, covertly.

I shall not pray for them.

The problem as I see it is that not everyone judges "morality" in the same way. For example, I believe that the Bible is the final authority for everyone and everything, others feel differently. Some people use their own ideals of "morality" which can change as their views/opinions change. I believe that murder and lying for example is wrong, others feel that abortion is acceptable, even going so far as to try to label it "reproductive rights".

Took me forever to find this..

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/erik-raymond/should-christians-defend-themselves/

It is my opinion that the left/demonic has so invaded everything that you cannot find specific things in the bible if it is in contrast to what the left wants you to believe. NOTE in the above link that the author says the US gov't has GIVEN US THE RIGHT TO BEAR WEAPONS AND TO KILL IN ORDER TO PROTECT OURSELVES> The gov't didn't do that. GOD DOES IT. So evil and misinformation has invaded not only the search engines but also what we would think are spiritual experts, their information.

Calypso Jones wrote:Took me forever to find this..

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/erik-raymond/should-christians-defend-themselves/

It is my opinion that the left/demonic has so invaded everything that you cannot find specific things in the bible if it is in contrast to what the left wants you to believe.  NOTE in the above link that the author says the US gov't has GIVEN US THE RIGHT TO BEAR WEAPONS AND TO KILL IN ORDER TO PROTECT OURSELVES>  The gov't didn't do that. GOD DOES IT.     So evil and misinformation has invaded not only the search engines but also what we would think are spiritual experts, their information.

This is precisely why I believe that digital Bibles that are accessed on-line by cell phones are so dangerous! The data can be altered as the left/demons see fit.

Pray for our deliverance, from these enemies.

And pray that they're fully paid, the wages of what they are working.