Why has the southern border failed

Since World War II, the United States economy has performed better significantly on average under the administration of Democratic presidents than Republican presidents. The reasons for this are debated, and the observation applies to economic variables including job creation, GDP growth, stock market returns, personal income growth and corporate profits. The unemployment rate has risen on average under Republican presidents, while it has fallen on average under Democratic presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents, Ten of the eleven U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

Are these the types of fact you are looking for Casey ?

vege57 wrote:Since World War II, the United States economy has performed better significantly on average under the administration of Democratic presidents than Republican presidents. The reasons for this are debated, and the observation applies to economic variables including job creation, GDP growth, stock market returns, personal income growth and corporate profits. The unemployment rate has risen on average under Republican presidents, while it has fallen on average under Democratic presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents, Ten of the eleven U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

Are these the types of fact you are looking for Casey ?

wikipedia? Hardy har har!

vege57 wrote:

your facts are not my facts , that's where the problem lies

you guys confuse opinion with  fact  

We have a couple of problems, and this illustrates it nicely.

Facts ARE. You don't own them; I don't own them. They don't CARE. They're out there.

Some of them are hidden. Some are so obvious they cannot be denied.

Selective PICKING of facts...is usually to construct a DECEIT.

You know what that is called.

When two people of good faith disagree, it's usually because some of the facts are unknown - to one or both.

Or some facts are not accepted as facts - they appear to be false facts.

That's from poor/inadequate information, or from denial of unpleasant realities, or belief that the person or organization presenting facts, is being dishonest. Such as, media lack-of-credibility.

Honesty, personal honesty, integrity in media fact presentations (news) would go a long way towards eliminating this sort of conflict. Alas...the evil liars who run, who hold high positions, or even middling positions...are evil liars and like lying and conflict.

hurricanehook wrote:

vege57 wrote:Since World War II, the United States economy has performed better significantly on average under the administration of Democratic presidents than Republican presidents. The reasons for this are debated, and the observation applies to economic variables including job creation, GDP growth, stock market returns, personal income growth and corporate profits. The unemployment rate has risen on average under Republican presidents, while it has fallen on average under Democratic presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents, Ten of the eleven U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

Are these the types of fact you are looking for Casey ?

wikipedia? Hardy har har!

Thanks, hook.

Wikipukia has zero correlation to fact. It reflects the bias of the last person to deface the entry; and conservatives are usually busy actually doing profitable work. Wasting time in Momma's basement, entering bullschitte like this, is a Leftist occupation.

I guess some people, in the face of all evidence, want to pretend that a command-and-control economy somehow works better. Command/Control economies take two forms: Socialism (which includes Communism) and Mercantilism.

Mercantilism was the antebellum South of the US, prior to the Confederacy; and now it's modern-day China. Mercantilism is better than collectivist socialism, but not much better. The South was stunted. China is a hellscape with a relatively-small government class, including the crony-corporate class, and vast tens of millions of near-slaves forced to labor all their waking hours for nothing.

Speak out about it and your Social Credit Score drops - and you lose your home. No wonder the worker slaves try to kill themselves on the Foxconn assembly lines.

hurricanehook wrote:

vege57 wrote:Since World War II, the United States economy has performed better significantly on average under the administration of Democratic presidents than Republican presidents. The reasons for this are debated, and the observation applies to economic variables including job creation, GDP growth, stock market returns, personal income growth and corporate profits. The unemployment rate has risen on average under Republican presidents, while it has fallen on average under Democratic presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents, Ten of the eleven U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

Are these the types of fact you are looking for Casey ?

wikipedia? Hardy har har!

Everyone here uses it when it suits their argument, rather than poo poo it , find something that contradicts it

Casey Jones wrote:

hurricanehook wrote:

vege57 wrote:Since World War II, the United States economy has performed better significantly on average under the administration of Democratic presidents than Republican presidents. The reasons for this are debated, and the observation applies to economic variables including job creation, GDP growth, stock market returns, personal income growth and corporate profits. The unemployment rate has risen on average under Republican presidents, while it has fallen on average under Democratic presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents, Ten of the eleven U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

Are these the types of fact you are looking for Casey ?

wikipedia? Hardy har har!

Thanks, hook.

Wikipukia has zero correlation to fact.  It reflects the bias of the last person to deface the entry; and conservatives are usually busy actually doing profitable work.  Wasting time in Momma's basement, entering bullschitte like this, is a Leftist occupation.

I guess some people, in the face of all evidence, want to pretend that a command-and-control economy somehow works better.  Command/Control economies take two forms:  Socialism (which includes Communism) and Mercantilism.

Mercantilism was the antebellum South of the US, prior to the Confederacy; and now it's modern-day China.  Mercantilism is better than collectivist socialism, but not much better.  The South was stunted.  China is a hellscape with a relatively-small government class, including the crony-corporate class, and vast tens of millions of near-slaves forced to labor all their waking hours for nothing.

Speak out about it and your Social Credit Score drops - and you lose your home.  No wonder the worker slaves try to kill themselves on the Foxconn assembly lines.

""Wikipukia has zero correlation to fact. ""

Again you present your opinion as fact

vege57 wrote:

hurricanehook wrote:

vege57 wrote:Since World War II, the United States economy has performed better significantly on average under the administration of Democratic presidents than Republican presidents. The reasons for this are debated, and the observation applies to economic variables including job creation, GDP growth, stock market returns, personal income growth and corporate profits. The unemployment rate has risen on average under Republican presidents, while it has fallen on average under Democratic presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents, Ten of the eleven U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

Are these the types of fact you are looking for Casey ?

wikipedia? Hardy har har!

Everyone here uses it when it suits their argument, rather than poo poo it , find something that contradicts it

When any Joe Shmoe can post "their" facts as a source, not for me.

hurricanehook wrote:

vege57 wrote:

hurricanehook wrote:

vege57 wrote:Since World War II, the United States economy has performed better significantly on average under the administration of Democratic presidents than Republican presidents. The reasons for this are debated, and the observation applies to economic variables including job creation, GDP growth, stock market returns, personal income growth and corporate profits. The unemployment rate has risen on average under Republican presidents, while it has fallen on average under Democratic presidents. Budget deficits relative to the size of the economy were lower on average for Democratic presidents, Ten of the eleven U.S. recessions between 1953 and 2020 began under Republican presidents.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

Are these the types of fact you are looking for Casey ?

wikipedia? Hardy har har!

Everyone here uses it when it suits their argument, rather than poo poo it , find something that contradicts it

When any Joe Shmoe can post "their" facts as a source, not for me.

No different to the conspiracy sites that peeps here use, just some Joe shmoe spreading their opinions, Maybe we need a register of legit sites to draw from lol

The Economy Under Democratic vs. RepublicanPresidents
The Republican Party claims to be “the party of maximum economic freedom and the prosperity that freedom
makes possible.” However, an analysis of economic performance since World War II under Democratic versus
Republican presidents strongly suggests that claims that Republicans are better at managing the economy are
simply not true



https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/309cc8e1-b971-45c6-ab52-29ffb1da9bf5/jec-fact-sheet---the-economy-under-democratic-vs.-republican-presidents-june-2016.pdf

Conventional wisdom refers to the generally accepted opinion or judgment about a particular topic of conversation. These opinions can be true or false but the fact that they are so widely assumed to be true lends an air of credibility to them. For decades, conventional wisdom says that the United States’ economy always does better under a Republican president than under a Democratic one. The history and data for decades proves that nothing can be further from the truth. Since WWII, regardless of what metric is used, the economy performs demonstrably better under Democratic presidents.

https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article281641483.html