Why has the southern border failed
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Why has the southern border failed
It's mainly push factors
........... First, the numbers of people trying to come to the United States have skyrocketed as migrants from all over the world, not just Mexico, try to come here.
Second, it is more difficult to hire border patrol agents than perhaps any other law enforcement position in the federal government.
Third, the situation at the border poses the classic issue of surge management.
And finally, chronic underfunding has created an enormous backlog in the immigration courts. ............
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/fixing-the-border-four-reasons-the-immigration-crisis-isnt-going-away/
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Re: Why has the southern border failed
It's mostly because we keep incentivizing invaders to come over here through welfare and other freebies. All we have to do is shut off the incentives and start enforcing our immigration laws again, and the invaders might start self-deporting.
But the politicians don't want this. Notice that not one of them from either "party" will come out and say what should obviously be done. They just keep beating around the bush, making vague excuses and pointing their fingers at the other side. I suspect they're being paid to let the invaders in, or they get something out of it, whether it's more voters or cheap labor. Neither "party" really cares if illegals are coming over here as long as they can get their votes or save a few dollars here and there.
And then you have Trump talking about building a wall. Well, a wall's not going to do any good if you're not going to enforce the laws that are already on the books. If the Border Patrol only did their damn jobs, we wouldn't need a wall.
But the politicians don't want this. Notice that not one of them from either "party" will come out and say what should obviously be done. They just keep beating around the bush, making vague excuses and pointing their fingers at the other side. I suspect they're being paid to let the invaders in, or they get something out of it, whether it's more voters or cheap labor. Neither "party" really cares if illegals are coming over here as long as they can get their votes or save a few dollars here and there.
And then you have Trump talking about building a wall. Well, a wall's not going to do any good if you're not going to enforce the laws that are already on the books. If the Border Patrol only did their damn jobs, we wouldn't need a wall.
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Re: Why has the southern border failed
Keith wrote:It's mostly because we keep incentivizing invaders to come over here through welfare and other freebies. All we have to do is shut off the incentives and start enforcing our immigration laws again, and the invaders might start self-deporting.
But the politicians don't want this. Notice that not one of them from either "party" will come out and say what should obviously be done. They just keep beating around the bush, making vague excuses and pointing their fingers at the other side. I suspect they're being paid to let the invaders in, or they get something out of it, whether it's more voters or cheap labor. Neither "party" really cares if illegals are coming over here as long as they can get their votes or save a few dollars here and there.
And then you have Trump talking about building a wall. Well, a wall's not going to do any good if you're not going to enforce the laws that are already on the books. If the Border Patrol only did their damn jobs, we wouldn't need a wall.
If we started arresting and deporting illegals this nonsense would stop but, that isn't what the Democrats want. The Democrats want illegals to vote so that they can legally overwhelm the Conservatives. Until that time, Democrats are stuck with illegal means.
I like the suggestion that we treat the illegals like the invaders they are and shoot them on sight but, politics won't allow that.
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Re: Why has the southern border failed
6 months of hard labor building a wall for the 1st offense. One year for the second............
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Re: Why has the southern border failed
why not tie a plastic bag over your head and then allow the buzzards to pick your rotted carcass?
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Re: Why has the southern border failed
I don't know about that suggestion, RV.RV wrote:If we started arresting and deporting illegals this nonsense would stop but, that isn't what the Democrats want. The Democrats want illegals to vote so that they can legally overwhelm the Conservatives. Until that time, Democrats are stuck with illegal means.
I like the suggestion that we treat the illegals like the invaders they are and shoot them on sight but, politics won't allow that.
Maybe a little too harsh for the squeamish?
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Re: Why has the southern border failed
RV wrote:Keith wrote:It's mostly because we keep incentivizing invaders to come over here through welfare and other freebies. All we have to do is shut off the incentives and start enforcing our immigration laws again, and the invaders might start self-deporting.
But the politicians don't want this. Notice that not one of them from either "party" will come out and say what should obviously be done. They just keep beating around the bush, making vague excuses and pointing their fingers at the other side. I suspect they're being paid to let the invaders in, or they get something out of it, whether it's more voters or cheap labor. Neither "party" really cares if illegals are coming over here as long as they can get their votes or save a few dollars here and there.
And then you have Trump talking about building a wall. Well, a wall's not going to do any good if you're not going to enforce the laws that are already on the books. If the Border Patrol only did their damn jobs, we wouldn't need a wall.
If we started arresting and deporting illegals this nonsense would stop but, that isn't what the Democrats want. The Democrats want illegals to vote so that they can legally overwhelm the Conservatives. Until that time, Democrats are stuck with illegal means.
I like the suggestion that we treat the illegals like the invaders they are and shoot them on sight but, politics won't allow that.
' ................. If we started arresting and deporting illegals this nonsense would stop but, that isn't what the Democrats want ..........'
The democrats are arresting more and deporting more as a % than the republicans were when they were in power
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Re: Why has the southern border failed
Sprintcyclist wrote:RV wrote:Keith wrote:It's mostly because we keep incentivizing invaders to come over here through welfare and other freebies. All we have to do is shut off the incentives and start enforcing our immigration laws again, and the invaders might start self-deporting.
But the politicians don't want this. Notice that not one of them from either "party" will come out and say what should obviously be done. They just keep beating around the bush, making vague excuses and pointing their fingers at the other side. I suspect they're being paid to let the invaders in, or they get something out of it, whether it's more voters or cheap labor. Neither "party" really cares if illegals are coming over here as long as they can get their votes or save a few dollars here and there.
And then you have Trump talking about building a wall. Well, a wall's not going to do any good if you're not going to enforce the laws that are already on the books. If the Border Patrol only did their damn jobs, we wouldn't need a wall.
If we started arresting and deporting illegals this nonsense would stop but, that isn't what the Democrats want. The Democrats want illegals to vote so that they can legally overwhelm the Conservatives. Until that time, Democrats are stuck with illegal means.
I like the suggestion that we treat the illegals like the invaders they are and shoot them on sight but, politics won't allow that.
' ................. If we started arresting and deporting illegals this nonsense would stop but, that isn't what the Democrats want ..........'
The democrats are arresting more and deporting more as a % than the republicans were when they were in power
So show us the numbers. I've dealt with the illegals my whole adult life. I've arranged my life so that they don't affect me now, but that could change. The number of illegals increased exponentially when President Magoo took office.
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Re: Why has the southern border failed
Yeah, all these people just suddenly came.
Out of nowhere. With no money.
And of COURSE we CANNOT use military force to enforce the border...because, DEMOCRAT DONORS.
But, thanks for this post. It's helpful to see what the lying political mediuh are telling the sheeple
....I guess....
Out of nowhere. With no money.
And of COURSE we CANNOT use military force to enforce the border...because, DEMOCRAT DONORS.
But, thanks for this post. It's helpful to see what the lying political mediuh are telling the sheeple
....I guess....
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Re: Why has the southern border failed
hurricanehook wrote:I don't know about that suggestion, RV.RV wrote:If we started arresting and deporting illegals this nonsense would stop but, that isn't what the Democrats want. The Democrats want illegals to vote so that they can legally overwhelm the Conservatives. Until that time, Democrats are stuck with illegal means.
I like the suggestion that we treat the illegals like the invaders they are and shoot them on sight but, politics won't allow that.
Maybe a little too harsh for the squeamish?
At least give them the option of turning around and going back from whence they came , before you pop one through their swede
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