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Post by HawkTheSlayer Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:39 pm

Mark Sherman and Nicholas Riccardi
Fri Jan 5, 2004


WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court said Friday it will decide whether former President Donald Trump can be kept off the ballot because of his efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, inserting the court squarely in the 2024 presidential campaign.


The justices acknowledged the need to reach a decision quickly, as voters will soon begin casting presidential primary ballots across the country. The court agreed to take up a case from Colorado stemming from Trump’s role in the events that culminated in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.


Arguments will be held in early February.


The court will be considering for the first time the meaning and reach of a provision of the 14th Amendment barring some people who “engaged in insurrection” from holding public office. The amendment was adopted in 1868, following the Civil War. It has been so rarely used that the nation's highest court had no previous occasion to interpret it.


Colorado's Supreme Court, by a 4-3 vote, ruled last month that Trump should not be on the Republican primary ballot. The decision was the first time the 14th Amendment was used to bar a presidential contender from the ballot.


Trump is separately appealing to state court a ruling by Maine’s Democratic secretary of state, Shenna Bellows, that he was ineligible to appear on that state’s ballot over his role in the Capitol attack. Both the Colorado Supreme Court and the Maine secretary of state’s rulings are on hold until the appeals play out.


Three of the nine Supreme Court justices were appointed by Trump, though they have repeatedly ruled against him in 2020 election-related lawsuits, as well as his efforts to keep documents related to Jan. 6 and his tax returns from being turned over to congressional committees.


At the same time, Justices Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh have been in the majority of conservative-driven decisions that overturned the five-decade-old constitutional right to abortion, expanded gun rights and struck down affirmative action in college admissions.


Some Democratic lawmakers have called on another conservative justice, Clarence Thomas, to step aside from the case because of his wife's support for Trump’s effort to overturn the results of the election, which he lost to Democrat Joe Biden. Thomas is unlikely to agree. He has recused himself from only one other case related to the 2020 election, involving former law clerk John Eastman, and so far the people trying to disqualify Trump haven’t asked him to recuse.


The 4-3 Colorado decision cites a ruling by Gorsuch when he was a federal judge in that state. That Gorsuch decision upheld Colorado's move to strike a naturalized citizen from the state's presidential ballot because he was born in Guyana and didn't meet the constitutional requirements to run for office. The court found that Trump likewise doesn't meet the qualifications due to his role in the U.S. Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021. That day, the Republican president had held a rally outside the White House and exhorted his supporters to “fight like hell” before they walked to the Capitol.


The two-sentence provision in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment states that anyone who swore an oath to uphold the constitution and then “engaged in insurrection” against it is no longer eligible for state or federal office. After Congress passed an amnesty for most of the former confederates the measure targeted in 1872, the provision fell into disuse until dozens of suits were filed to keep Trump off the ballot this year. Only the one in Colorado was successful.


Trump had asked the court to overturn the Colorado ruling without even hearing arguments. “The Colorado Supreme Court decision would unconstitutionally disenfranchise millions of voters in Colorado and likely be used as a template to disenfranchise tens of millions of voters nationwide,” Trump’s lawyers wrote.


They argue that Trump should win on many grounds, including that the events of Jan. 6 did not constitute an insurrection. Even if it did, they wrote, Trump himself had not engaged in insurrection. They also contend that the insurrection clause does not apply to the president and that Congress must act, not individual states.


Critics of the former president who sued in Colorado agreed that the justices should step in now and resolve the issue, as do many election law experts.


“This case is of utmost national importance. And given the upcoming presidential primary schedule, there is no time to wait for the issues to percolate further. The Court should resolve this case on an expedited timetable, so that voters in Colorado and elsewhere will know whether Trump is indeed constitutionally ineligible when they cast their primary ballots,” lawyers for the Colorado plaintiffs told the Supreme Court.


The issue of whether Trump can be on the ballot is not the only matter related to the former president or Jan. 6 that has reached the high court. The justices last month declined a request from special counsel Jack Smith to swiftly take up and rule on Trump’s claims that he is immune from prosecution in a case charging him with plotting to overturn the 2020 presidential election, though the issue could be back before the court soon depending on the ruling of a Washington-based appeals court.


And the court has said that it intends to hear an appeal that could upend hundreds of charges stemming from the Capitol riot, including against Trump.

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Post by Red Lily Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:45 pm

https://abc7chicago.com/donald-trump-colorado-supreme-court-insurrection-clause/14282112/

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Post by Red Lily Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:24 pm

This whole thing is ridiculous and should be resolved right now.
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Post by Sprintcyclist Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:11 pm

That sounds correct.

Will people here accept the Supreme courts decision?

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Post by HawkTheSlayer Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:18 pm

Sprintcyclist wrote:That sounds correct.

Will people here accept the Supreme courts decision?

The relevant question is, whether the left will accept the decision without burning down their own neighborhoods.

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Post by Red Lily Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:20 pm

Sprintcyclist wrote:That sounds correct.

Will people here accept the Supreme courts decision?

I think you're going to be very disappointed, Sprint.
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Post by Sprintcyclist Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:23 pm

Red Lily wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:That sounds correct.

Will people here accept the Supreme courts decision?

I think you're going to be very disappointed, Sprint.

I could be

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Post by Keith Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:28 pm

So if the SCOTUS decides to ban Trump from the ballots, what are the MAGA fanatics gonna do? Stay home on Election Day and hand Biden a reelection? Vote for Trump as a "write-in", which will surely be ignored by the electoral apparatus? Vote for someone else, even though many of them have seemingly made it clear that they will accept nobody but Trump?

This was my main concern ever since Trump announced his reelection campaign. I knew there was no way the System was going to make it easy on him. First there were all of the indictments, and now they're trying to remove him from the ballot altogether. Trump's supporters should have had a backup plan ready in case their guy is declared ineligible. They should have been ready to rally around some other candidate going forward.

But as of right now, I don't see anyone in the right-wing/conservative camp suggesting they move on from Trump. They all seem to be willing to go down in flames with him, even if it means Biden and the Marxists will remain in power indefinitely. To me, they are being stubborn and not thinking things through.

We need a fresh start. No more Trump and no more Biden. I haven't made up my mind on whether or not I'm going to vote this year, but if I do, it'll most likely be for Kennedy, Jr., simply because he's no longer part of the two-party charade. Does he have any real chance of winning? Not really. But at least I would be voting for what I believe in, and not voting for one of the System's pre-approved stooges. The ultimate question is: are Trump's current and past supporters willing to do the same if Trump is not permitted to run?
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Post by HawkTheSlayer Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:47 pm

Keith wrote:So if the SCOTUS decides to ban Trump from the ballots, what are the MAGA fanatics gonna do? Stay home on Election Day and hand Biden a reelection? Vote for Trump as a "write-in", which will surely be ignored by the electoral apparatus? Vote for someone else, even though many of them have seemingly made it clear that they will accept nobody but Trump?

This was my main concern ever since Trump announced his reelection campaign. I knew there was no way the System was going to make it easy on him. First there were all of the indictments, and now they're trying to remove him from the ballot altogether. Trump's supporters should have had a backup plan ready in case their guy is declared ineligible. They should have been ready to rally around some other candidate going forward.

But as of right now, I don't see anyone in the right-wing/conservative camp suggesting they move on from Trump. They all seem to be willing to go down in flames with him, even if it means Biden and the Marxists will remain in power indefinitely. To me, they are being stubborn and not thinking things through.

We need a fresh start. No more Trump and no more Biden. I haven't made up my mind on whether or not I'm going to vote this year, but if I do, it'll most likely be for Kennedy, Jr., simply because he's no longer part of the two-party charade. Does he have any real chance of winning? Not really. But at least I would be voting for what I believe in, and not voting for one of the System's pre-approved stooges. The ultimate question is: are Trump's current and past supporters willing to do the same if Trump is not permitted to run?

If they rule an unconvicted citizen can be removed, it will set a precedent and The Supreme Court will Decide If Trump Can Be Kept Off The Ballots  2756054654 red states will simply remove Biden from the ballot.

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Post by Keith Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:55 pm

HawkTheSlayer wrote:
Keith wrote:So if the SCOTUS decides to ban Trump from the ballots, what are the MAGA fanatics gonna do? Stay home on Election Day and hand Biden a reelection? Vote for Trump as a "write-in", which will surely be ignored by the electoral apparatus? Vote for someone else, even though many of them have seemingly made it clear that they will accept nobody but Trump?

This was my main concern ever since Trump announced his reelection campaign. I knew there was no way the System was going to make it easy on him. First there were all of the indictments, and now they're trying to remove him from the ballot altogether. Trump's supporters should have had a backup plan ready in case their guy is declared ineligible. They should have been ready to rally around some other candidate going forward.

But as of right now, I don't see anyone in the right-wing/conservative camp suggesting they move on from Trump. They all seem to be willing to go down in flames with him, even if it means Biden and the Marxists will remain in power indefinitely. To me, they are being stubborn and not thinking things through.

We need a fresh start. No more Trump and no more Biden. I haven't made up my mind on whether or not I'm going to vote this year, but if I do, it'll most likely be for Kennedy, Jr., simply because he's no longer part of the two-party charade. Does he have any real chance of winning? Not really. But at least I would be voting for what I believe in, and not voting for one of the System's pre-approved stooges. The ultimate question is: are Trump's current and past supporters willing to do the same if Trump is not permitted to run?

If they rule an unconvicted citizen can be removed, it will set a precedent and The Supreme Court will Decide If Trump Can Be Kept Off The Ballots  2756054654 red states will simply remove Biden from the ballot.  

I won't be holding my breath on that one. They might talk about it, but they'll never follow through on anything. The left can get away with such stuff, because they don't undergo the same public/media scrutiny as the right.
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