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Post by RV Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:56 am

Sprintcyclist wrote:
Calypso Jones wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:
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...........  what does that mean.    Are you saying that being the christian you claim to be that you're going to prove God's word by using anything other than God's word?  

It means, you cannot use Allegations, slander, innuendos or lies to prove anything.
You cannot use any document to prove itself.
If you want to prove the bible, go ahead. I feel no need to.
A Spiritual belief may not be 'provable.' It's meant to be not provable


i'm seeing this technique quite a lot lately.    you start this and then somehow magically turn it around to hamstring your opposition.  Is this a new alinsky rule for radical or just a twist of an existing one?

i don't think that squint understands that the bible IS God's innering word.  and yet he doesn't seem to believe it or that it proves itself and disproves all other false beliefs.    Squint should be...if he is what he claims, reveling in the innering, unchanging Word of God.  

It's amazing isn't it.
Here is a book written 2000 years ago. Probably the most influential book ever written.
I am sure if I read it a 4th time, cover to cover, it would be illuminating for me.
I can confidently bet on that. It is a very personal book.
Many people have become Christians as a result of reading the Bible in order to prove it wrong.
It has been misquoted to commit or justify crimes. That is not the fault of The Bible. That is humans.

I do not see this as being a case of 'either believe in The Bible or believe in Science.'
Most Scientists have been Christians.

Some of the claims muslims use against it are surprisingly false.
I have discussed a few with them over the years.

Right, "Most Scientists have been Christians"... Lol, it depends on how you define "Christians". I suppose that you could call devil worshippers "Christians" if you were so inclined.
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Post by Sprintcyclist Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:14 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:

It means, you cannot use Allegations, slander, innuendos or lies to prove anything.
You cannot use any document to prove itself.
If you want to prove the bible, go ahead. I feel no need to.
A Spiritual belief may not be 'provable.' It's meant to be not provable


i'm seeing this technique quite a lot lately.    you start this and then somehow magically turn it around to hamstring your opposition.  Is this a new alinsky rule for radical or just a twist of an existing one?

i don't think that squint understands that the bible IS God's innering word.  and yet he doesn't seem to believe it or that it proves itself and disproves all other false beliefs.    Squint should be...if he is what he claims, reveling in the innering, unchanging Word of God.  

@Calypso Jones
Hi,
It is not a technique I am using.
In the Bible it says God want us to come to him with a pure childlike faith.
It is quite reasonable to say he made it that way. Unproveable.
Being a christian is a voluntary thing, not a compulsory thing. We have free will, so God accepts some of us will not choose a christian life.
As a parent I want my kids to contact me because they want to. Not because I demand it.
Love cannot be forced.

How long have you been a christian?

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