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Post by billy the kid Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:31 pm

Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall, who is advocating for warthogs to be sent to Ukraine once spent time with a private company for many years before
re-entering the US DoD.....
The company Im referring to......Raytheon.....
Who would have guessed.....
"Raytheon Technologies manufactures aircraft engines, avionics, aerostructures, cybersecurity, guided missiles, air defense systems, satellites, and drones. The company is also a large military contractor, getting a significant portion of its revenue from the U.S. government."
But we all know that Raytheon, Halliburton, Washington DC are all revolving
doors for these warmongers....
Well...some of us.....


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Post by billy the kid Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:38 pm

"In June 2019, United Technologies announced the intention to merge with the Raytheon Company. The combined company, valued at more than $100 billion after planned spinoffs, would be the world's second-largest aerospace-and-defense company by sales behind Boeing"....wikipedia....
MUST be a tot of money in warmongering...
(War is a Racket.....good book....)

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Post by billy the kid Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:46 pm

Comment from the link above:
"Here's the Putin State of the Nation speech with English translation.

President Putin Annual Russia General Assembly Speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXB-8qslWmQ

If you give a **** about avoiding a nuclear WWIII you owe it to yourself to hear what he is saying to counter-balance the non-stop lies and propaganda from the ZioWarPigs in DC.

Hard not to agree with him when he calls out the degeneracy of the so-called neo-liberals in the west including sodomite marriage, pedophilia, transgenderism, destruction of the family and everything else "woke" being shoved down our throats by the far-left radical "progressives".
None of this will be shown by the western media whores...

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Post by vege57 Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:01 pm

Casey Jones wrote:
vege57 wrote:
Casey Jones wrote:
Red Lily wrote:Put her on the front line.

Put her at ambient temperature.

By putting holes in her person, where God didn't intend holes.

Miserable fat wannabee queen.


What is the Budapest Memorandum ?

Treaties and diplomatic agreements are not unilateral, when between two or more parties.

That NATO violated the Minsk Accords, in expanding NATO towards Russian borders and worked to solicit Ukraine; that the US government put covert biological-weapons labs within 100 km of the border, with programs to WEAPONIZE MOSQUITOES...that the Ukraine had in fact been taken over by NATO principals with a "Color Revolution"...meant Russia's safety and sovereignty were in question.

A very similar event in the past, was the Cuban Missile standoff.  Kennedy was right, and so is Putin right.

Control of the region by the Azov neo-Nazis, was a very similar security threat.

But, these won't matter to many people.  They start with a foregone conclusion:  RUSSIA--> BAD! and manipulate and cherry-pick facts to work backwards from that.

Then nothing has any validity does it, So you guys need to stop quoting various agreements that have been entered into because none are worth the paper they are printed on lol
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Post by vege57 Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:04 pm

billy the kid wrote:
vege57 wrote:Putin’s decision to invade is in direct violation of the Budapest Memorandum, a key instrument assuring Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. The memorandum was struck in 1994, following lengthy and complicated negotiations involving the then Russian president Boris Yeltsin, Ukrainian president Leonid Kuchma, US president Bill Clinton and the then British prime minister John Major.

Under the terms of the memorandum, Ukraine agreed to relinquish its nuclear arsenal – the world’s third-largest, inherited from the collapsed Soviet Union – and transfer all nuclear warheads to Russia for decommissioning. This enabled Ukraine to join the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) as a non-nuclear state.
Now tell us all about the Maidan Coup...
While you're at it, tell us about Merkels statement that the Minsk agreements were just a ploy to enable
Ukraine to bolster their defences against Russia.
Merkel said twelve months ago that Ukraine would not be permitted into NATO until they increased their fortifications
on the Ukraine/Russia border.
Hence both Minsk Agreements were simply a ruse to buy time for Ukraine...
Time for Ukraine to shell Donetsk and kill 14,000 civilians...
Blind Freddie can see that the Ukrainian shelling of Donetsk repudiated all terms of the Budapest Memorandum.
Ukraine had in fact started a Civil War within Ukraine...

""Now tell us all about the Maidan Coup...""

It doesn't work that way Billy, you cant cherry pick the agreements tot suit your dogma
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Post by billy the kid Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:08 pm

vege57 wrote:
billy the kid wrote:
vege57 wrote:Putin’s decision to invade is in direct violation of the Budapest Memorandum, a key instrument assuring Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. The memorandum was struck in 1994, following lengthy and complicated negotiations involving the then Russian president Boris Yeltsin, Ukrainian president Leonid Kuchma, US president Bill Clinton and the then British prime minister John Major.

Under the terms of the memorandum, Ukraine agreed to relinquish its nuclear arsenal – the world’s third-largest, inherited from the collapsed Soviet Union – and transfer all nuclear warheads to Russia for decommissioning. This enabled Ukraine to join the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) as a non-nuclear state.
Now tell us all about the Maidan Coup...
While you're at it, tell us about Merkels statement that the Minsk agreements were just a ploy to enable
Ukraine to bolster their defences against Russia.
Merkel said twelve months ago that Ukraine would not be permitted into NATO until they increased their fortifications
on the Ukraine/Russia border.
Hence both Minsk Agreements were simply a ruse to buy time for Ukraine...
Time for Ukraine to shell Donetsk and kill 14,000 civilians...
Blind Freddie can see that the Ukrainian shelling of Donetsk repudiated all terms of the Budapest Memorandum.
Ukraine had in fact started a Civil War within Ukraine...

""Now tell us all about the Maidan Coup...""

It doesn't work that way Billy, you cant cherry pick the agreements tot suit your dogma
Im a tad confused...
First of all you quoted the Budapest Agreement....not me...
Then when I throw back other agreements you say I cant cherry pick agreements....
Umm..didnt you do that....
And then you hilariously tell us that all the agreements arent worth the paper theyre written on....
So WHY f....n quote the Budapest Agreement......

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Post by vege57 Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:19 pm

billy the kid wrote:
vege57 wrote:
billy the kid wrote:
vege57 wrote:Putin’s decision to invade is in direct violation of the Budapest Memorandum, a key instrument assuring Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. The memorandum was struck in 1994, following lengthy and complicated negotiations involving the then Russian president Boris Yeltsin, Ukrainian president Leonid Kuchma, US president Bill Clinton and the then British prime minister John Major.

Under the terms of the memorandum, Ukraine agreed to relinquish its nuclear arsenal – the world’s third-largest, inherited from the collapsed Soviet Union – and transfer all nuclear warheads to Russia for decommissioning. This enabled Ukraine to join the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) as a non-nuclear state.
Now tell us all about the Maidan Coup...
While you're at it, tell us about Merkels statement that the Minsk agreements were just a ploy to enable
Ukraine to bolster their defences against Russia.
Merkel said twelve months ago that Ukraine would not be permitted into NATO until they increased their fortifications
on the Ukraine/Russia border.
Hence both Minsk Agreements were simply a ruse to buy time for Ukraine...
Time for Ukraine to shell Donetsk and kill 14,000 civilians...
Blind Freddie can see that the Ukrainian shelling of Donetsk repudiated all terms of the Budapest Memorandum.
Ukraine had in fact started a Civil War within Ukraine...

""Now tell us all about the Maidan Coup...""

It doesn't work that way Billy, you cant cherry pick the agreements tot suit your dogma
Im a tad confused...
First of all you quoted the Budapest Agreement....not me...
Then when I throw back other agreements you say I cant cherry pick agreements....
Umm..didnt you do that....
And then you hilariously tell us that all the agreements arent worth the paper theyre written on....
So WHY f....n quote the Budapest Agreement......


as far as them being worthless, in the context that you only want to quote the ones that suit your argument, I'm merely pointing out that if don't accept them all in their totality then none have any value,

Its like you continually harping on about the corrupt Ukrainian state, ignoring the fact that Putin wrote the play book on corruption lol
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Post by vege57 Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:20 pm

billy the kid wrote:
vege57 wrote:
billy the kid wrote:
vege57 wrote:Putin’s decision to invade is in direct violation of the Budapest Memorandum, a key instrument assuring Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. The memorandum was struck in 1994, following lengthy and complicated negotiations involving the then Russian president Boris Yeltsin, Ukrainian president Leonid Kuchma, US president Bill Clinton and the then British prime minister John Major.

Under the terms of the memorandum, Ukraine agreed to relinquish its nuclear arsenal – the world’s third-largest, inherited from the collapsed Soviet Union – and transfer all nuclear warheads to Russia for decommissioning. This enabled Ukraine to join the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) as a non-nuclear state.
Now tell us all about the Maidan Coup...
While you're at it, tell us about Merkels statement that the Minsk agreements were just a ploy to enable
Ukraine to bolster their defences against Russia.
Merkel said twelve months ago that Ukraine would not be permitted into NATO until they increased their fortifications
on the Ukraine/Russia border.
Hence both Minsk Agreements were simply a ruse to buy time for Ukraine...
Time for Ukraine to shell Donetsk and kill 14,000 civilians...
Blind Freddie can see that the Ukrainian shelling of Donetsk repudiated all terms of the Budapest Memorandum.
Ukraine had in fact started a Civil War within Ukraine...

""Now tell us all about the Maidan Coup...""

It doesn't work that way Billy, you cant cherry pick the agreements tot suit your dogma
Im a tad confused...
First of all you quoted the Budapest Agreement....not me...
Then when I throw back other agreements you say I cant cherry pick agreements....
Umm..didnt you do that....
And then you hilariously tell us that all the agreements arent worth the paper theyre written on....
So WHY f....n quote the Budapest Agreement......

you are obviously not a hard person to confuse Billy , Maybe you should stick to the horses lol
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Post by billy the kid Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:23 pm

Typical antagonistic post....
Perhaps you should go and practise your stupid haka....or
screw a sheep or cook some rabbit stew...
Waste of time talking to you...

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Post by vege57 Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:41 pm

billy the kid wrote:Typical antagonistic post....
Perhaps you should go and practise your stupid haka....or
screw a sheep or cook some rabbit stew...
Waste of time talking to you...

You let yourself down here Billy, when all else fails you turned to personal insults , cant say I have lowered myself to that level with you, or attacked your nationality, says a lot about the type of person you are mate

Just for the record, there are more rabbits in Aus than NZ, If you guys started eating them it would go a long way to sorting the problem lol
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