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Post by vege57 Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:06 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:I don't care if anyone chooses not to believe in The One True God.  His evidence is all around.   Those that claim he does not exist are denying the very truth that he has placed within them.

They can do as they please.   I feel for them....before it is too late.   The one good thing about Veg is that....in spite of his atheism...he isn't violent.   He seems to have a good sense of humor and that will suffice on earth.

"'The one good thing about Veg is that....in spite of his atheism...he isn't violent.""


I can see some real value in being religious, from a community standpoint and a personal one, But its just not me,,
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Post by vege57 Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:17 pm

Leon Xiv wrote:I've put in a list of questions in another thread, you could try to answer them but I very much doubt that you would even try to.
You could offer alternative viewpoints about how existance came into being, but you wont. All you want to do is scream "I want evidence NAO!!!!" Your lot are all the same, with the same answer.
And I couldn't care less whether you believe in God and I stand by that.


I didn't say I wanted evidence ., I commented that if you want to prove the existence of God you would need to provide evidence, not just hearsay and conjecture and ""I know hes real!""
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Post by Calypso Jones Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:37 pm

but you believe in Darwin.
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Post by Leon Xiv Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:04 pm

vege57 wrote:
Leon Xiv wrote:I've put in a list of questions in another thread, you could try to answer them but I very much doubt that you would even try to.
You could offer alternative viewpoints about how existance came into being, but you wont. All you want to do is scream "I want evidence NAO!!!!" Your lot are all the same, with the same answer.
And I couldn't care less whether you believe in God and I stand by that.


I didn't say I wanted evidence ., I commented that if you want to prove the existence of God you would need to provide evidence, not just hearsay and conjecture and ""I know hes real!""

vege57 wrote:
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vege57 wrote:Leon you have no evidence, you have a belief, that's not evidence
What would you accept as 'evidence'?

Something that could be verified with physical evidence,  

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Post by vege57 Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:14 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:but you believe in Darwin.

I think that in his day he made some astute observations, he's a little old hat now , things have moved on and our knowledge has been advanced because of his work
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Post by vege57 Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:18 pm

Leon Xiv wrote:
vege57 wrote:
Leon Xiv wrote:I've put in a list of questions in another thread, you could try to answer them but I very much doubt that you would even try to.
You could offer alternative viewpoints about how existance came into being, but you wont. All you want to do is scream "I want evidence NAO!!!!" Your lot are all the same, with the same answer.
And I couldn't care less whether you believe in God and I stand by that.


I didn't say I wanted evidence ., I commented that if you want to prove the existence of God you would need to provide evidence, not just hearsay and conjecture and ""I know hes real!""

vege57 wrote:
Leon Xiv wrote:
vege57 wrote:Leon you have no evidence, you have a belief, that's not evidence
What would you accept as 'evidence'?

Something that could be verified with physical evidence,  

My point exactly Leon, If you want to promote the existence of god, you need to provide evidence, not a belief or an opinion

In my opinion he is not real, you are telling me he is, provide the evidence to prove your case ?
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Post by Leon Xiv Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:19 am

You are asking for physical evidence, can you give me an example of this type of "physical evidence"?
If you cannot give me an example of "evidence" then it means there is no evidence that you would accept. That is because you will never accept any concept that may prove the existance of God.

Are you going to answer the questions in that other thread?
You can look at cause and effect.
You can look at mathematical odds in relation to events happening which should make it impossible for events to happen, but yet still do.

You may push the "you cant prove a negative" schtick but I say you can by mathematics...

+1 X +1 = 1
-1 X -1 = 1

So what stops you?

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Post by vege57 Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:24 am

Leon Xiv wrote:You are asking for physical evidence, can you give me an example of this type of "physical evidence"?
If you cannot give me an example of "evidence" then it means there is no evidence that you would accept. That is because you will never accept any concept that may prove the existance of God.

Are you going to answer the questions in that other thread?
You can look at cause and effect.
You can look at mathematical odds in relation to events happening which should make it impossible for events to happen, but yet still do.

You may push the "you cant prove a negative" schtick but I say you can by mathematics...

+1 X +1 = 1
-1 X -1 = 1

So what stops you?


""Are you going to answer the questions in that other thread?""


Cut and paste it here as I cant recall what question you are referring too,,


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Post by vege57 Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:26 am

""You may push the "you cant prove a negative" schtick but I say you can by mathematics..""

Im not sure how you think that math is going to prove anything other than a calculation of some sort will comply to the law of math ?
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Post by Lummy Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:06 am

vege57 wrote:
Calypso Jones wrote:YOU are ignoring ALL evidence for the existence of an Intelligent Being (otherwise known as GOD)  You have no excuse other than your....obtuseness.

With all due respect, there is not one iota of evidence, You guys sit around in your bible study groups and blow smoke up each others asses, it wouldn't matter how outrageous the claim you would all lap it up

IMHO, there is evidence of God's existence all around us. Here's one exhibit of millions of billions:

Arguments for Proof of God - Page 5 Parrot-bird

You just have to look around you.
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