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Post by Sprintcyclist Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:47 am



Donald Trump has gone on a bizarre rant about offshore wind turbines, claiming they are driving whales “a little batty” and killing them “in numbers never seen before”.

https://www.indy100.com/politics/trump/donald-trump-whales-windmills

and he said there has only been one whale killed in the past 50 years off some shore.
I know many here love him but at some stage you have to blink and please check what I say.
he is getting erratic and unhinged

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Post by Red Lily Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:27 am

Why are you so obsessed with Trump, Sprint?  Seriously!

I wsh you'd turn your sites to Australia's proposed offshore wind turbines.  Studies have shown that the noise CAN, and does, affect whale behavior, communication, breeding and feeding activities.  Just wait until they are lined up all up and down the whale corridor on the east coast then tell me how fine they are.

All thanks to Casanova Bowen.  He's called that because everything he touches he f-cks.  If brains were taxed he'd get a refund.

Trump is known to grossly exaggerate but he's on the right track.
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Post by RV Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:29 am

Red Lily wrote:Why are you so obsessed with Trump, Sprint?  Seriously!

I wsh you'd turn your sites to Australia's proposed offshore wind turbines.  Studies have shown that the noise CAN, and does, affect whale behavior, communication, breeding and feeding activities.  Just wait until they are lined up all up and down the whale corridor on the east coast then tell me how fine they are.

All thanks to Casanova Bowen.  He's called that because everything he touches he f-cks.  If brains were taxed he'd get a refund.

Trump is known to grossly exaggerate but he's on the right track.

Liberals, RINO'S, Democrats, Socialists, Communists, gender-benders, "transgenders" and idiots cannot get President Tump off their mind. They are terrified that he will be elected to the presidency again.
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Post by Calypso Jones Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:42 am

These ocean wind turbines ARE killing whales just like the land ones are killing birds.
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Post by Sprintcyclist Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:58 am

I did not imagine that anyone would side with trump on this rambling discourse

  “There’s basically zero chance that those surveys have caused any mortality,” Douglas Nowacek, the chair of marine conservation technology at Duke University, told us in a phone interview.        

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/no-evidence-offshore-wind-development-killing-whales/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_quG2_SJggMVxhB7Bx3tVAJKEAAYASAAEgLf6vD_BwE


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Post by Calypso Jones Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:29 pm

odd...all these left wing sites deny that wind turbines on the ocean have any impact on the increasing number of whale deaths.....almost like all these left wing sites denied the fact of a wuhan development of the wuflu and the deaths from covid vaxx...and the Russian collusion scam against President Trump.

Donald Trump is referencing what many people already know and believe the same way we know that land wind turbines are killing birds in extraordinary numbers even the endangered species.

well...since these left wing sites poo poo the idea of the dangers of wind farms i guess everything is just fine.

Fact-checking Donald Trump's claim that wind turbines kill whales
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66928305
Former US President Donald Trump has claimed that wind turbines off the coast of the US "are causing whales to die in numbers never seen before". These claims have attracted significant...
Are Wind Farms Killing Whales? - American Oceans
https://www.americanoceans.org/facts/wind-farms-killing-whales
Between November 2022 and January 2023, 23 whales were found dead along the Eastern Seaboard, particularly in New Jersey and New York, where some locals already opposed offshore wind farms. There, they quickly associated whale deaths with the wind farm surveying and construction.
Offshore Wind May Help The Planet — But Will It Hurt Whales?
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/05/782694371
Now, the whales are poised to get many new, potentially disruptive neighbors: hundreds of skyscraper-high wind turbines, rising from the ocean floor. The New York Energy Research and...
Whale Experts are Caught in a Wind Power Culture War | Time
https://time.com/6254785/whale-deaths-offshore-wind-power
Humpback whale strandings across the East Coast have been elevated for the past seven years, an “unusual mortality event” as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA) Fisheries...
No Evidence Offshore Wind Development Killing Whales
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/no-ev
The unusual number of dead whales is not new , nor is there evidence it’s related to the work being done in preparation for the construction of large-scale wind turbine farms, according to...
What's killing whales off the Northeast coast? It's not wind farm ... - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/20/us/whale-deaths-offshore-wind-climate
Wayne Parry/AP CNN — A spate of nine whale deaths in New York and New Jersey in the last two months have prompted several New Jersey GOP lawmakers to question whether the deaths were linked to...
Dead whales are washing up on the East Coast. The reason remains a mystery.
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Post by RV Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:53 pm

I've heard the left claim that President Trump has said and done so many things that were falsified, concocted, fabricated, lied about, massaged and manipulated. The fact that some left wing site CLAIMS that President Trump said or did something doesn't convince me that he actually said or did it.


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Post by Sprintcyclist Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:13 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:odd...all these left wing sites deny that wind turbines on the ocean have any impact on the increasing number of whale deaths.....almost like all these left wing sites denied the  fact of a wuhan development of the wuflu and the deaths from covid vaxx...and the Russian collusion scam against President Trump.    

Donald Trump is referencing what many people already know and believe the same way we know that land wind turbines are killing birds in extraordinary numbers even the endangered species.  

well...since these left wing sites poo poo the idea of the dangers of wind farms i guess everything is just fine.

Fact-checking Donald Trump's claim that wind turbines kill whales
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66928305
Former US President Donald Trump has claimed that wind turbines off the coast of the US "are causing whales to die in numbers never seen before". These claims have attracted significant...
Are Wind Farms Killing Whales? - American Oceans
https://www.americanoceans.org/facts/wind-farms-killing-whales
Between November 2022 and January 2023, 23 whales were found dead along the Eastern Seaboard, particularly in New Jersey and New York, where some locals already opposed offshore wind farms. There, they quickly associated whale deaths with the wind farm surveying and construction.
Offshore Wind May Help The Planet — But Will It Hurt Whales?
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/05/782694371
Now, the whales are poised to get many new, potentially disruptive neighbors: hundreds of skyscraper-high wind turbines, rising from the ocean floor. The New York Energy Research and...
Whale Experts are Caught in a Wind Power Culture War | Time
https://time.com/6254785/whale-deaths-offshore-wind-power
Humpback whale strandings across the East Coast have been elevated for the past seven years, an “unusual mortality event” as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA) Fisheries...
No Evidence Offshore Wind Development Killing Whales
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/no-ev
The unusual number of dead whales is not new , nor is there evidence it’s related to the work being done in preparation for the construction of large-scale wind turbine farms, according to...
What's killing whales off the Northeast coast? It's not wind farm ... - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/20/us/whale-deaths-offshore-wind-climate
Wayne Parry/AP CNN — A spate of nine whale deaths in New York and New Jersey in the last two months have prompted several New Jersey GOP lawmakers to question whether the deaths were linked to...
Dead whales are washing up on the East Coast. The reason remains a mystery.

Can you clarify this.
Is your stance that any comment against what trump says is untrue.
No matter that they are experts in their field. Trump knows better

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Post by Sprintcyclist Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:18 pm


Facts.

............ NOAA officials carried out post-mortem examinations

Forty per cent of those deaths were linked to human interaction - whales becoming entangled in fishing nets, or being struck by vessels travelling through their feeding grounds.

In the remaining cases investigated by NOAA, other factors were listed as possible causes of death, including parasite-caused organ damage or starvation. .............

............ "To talk about wind farms being a problem takes away discussion around the very real threats that are a problem for those species."

Many other areas with high numbers of wind farms have not seen an increase in whale mortality.

For example, the UK is home to the world's four largest wind farms, but no humpback whale strandings there have been conclusively linked to the impact of those farms. .............

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66928305

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Post by Casey Jones Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:35 pm

If Trump were in office, we'd hear about how we can't trust "his government."

Trump is one of the last to pick up on it. It's been reported on for months, now, or longer. It doesn't fit The Narrative, so the faction that has its own FACTS as well as its own OPINIONS, chooses to ignore it.

That's a dangerous way to live. You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
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