The Concept of 'Praying Through', biblical?
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The Concept of 'Praying Through', biblical?
I woke up this morning with a popular Christian song running through my mind. The song talks about the concept of ‘praying through’. There is nothing in scripture that talks about ANYTHING of the sort so I’m trying to figure out the whole concept. Are these folks wrestling with God? Are these folks thinking that they aren’t heard by God? Are these folks thinking that they need to convince God? Are these folks continuing to pray because they don’t like the answer they were given from God? The habit of ‘praying through’ is supposed to ‘make’ God do what we want? Clearly, I don’t understand the idea at all!
My idea of prayer is to align our will with His, not the other way around. He is God and we are His servants. We answer to Him, He does not answer to us. God is not a Genie or a Santa Clause that will do things at our whim!
Jesus prayed often and even taught His disciples how to pray. I can’t find anywhere where He told them to ‘pray through’. I keep coming back to the words Jesus said while praying that His Father ALWAYS hears Him. Jesus never taught the concept of ‘praying through’. There is scripture that talks about constantly praying, “without ceasing” and that we are always to be in an attitude of prayer. There is even the verses in scripture that talk about our asking for bread and that God will not give us stones but, again there is nothing that talks about a ‘praying through’ nor a break through.
So, I am trying to figure out where the concept came from. It sounds quite sincere at the start but, gets more sinister and arrogant the more you think about it. Certainly those in the career of clergy have encouraged believers to ‘pray through’ and I am trying to find what scripture they are using as justification for it.
I have to confess that I have never prayed where I felt, thought or knew that God hadn’t heard me. The Lord always hears, albeit He may not immediately give me the answer I want but, it’s always the answer I need.
If we cannot ‘prove’ to others about our salvation, why do we have to and how can we ‘prove’ that God has heard our prayers?
My idea of prayer is to align our will with His, not the other way around. He is God and we are His servants. We answer to Him, He does not answer to us. God is not a Genie or a Santa Clause that will do things at our whim!
Jesus prayed often and even taught His disciples how to pray. I can’t find anywhere where He told them to ‘pray through’. I keep coming back to the words Jesus said while praying that His Father ALWAYS hears Him. Jesus never taught the concept of ‘praying through’. There is scripture that talks about constantly praying, “without ceasing” and that we are always to be in an attitude of prayer. There is even the verses in scripture that talk about our asking for bread and that God will not give us stones but, again there is nothing that talks about a ‘praying through’ nor a break through.
So, I am trying to figure out where the concept came from. It sounds quite sincere at the start but, gets more sinister and arrogant the more you think about it. Certainly those in the career of clergy have encouraged believers to ‘pray through’ and I am trying to find what scripture they are using as justification for it.
I have to confess that I have never prayed where I felt, thought or knew that God hadn’t heard me. The Lord always hears, albeit He may not immediately give me the answer I want but, it’s always the answer I need.
If we cannot ‘prove’ to others about our salvation, why do we have to and how can we ‘prove’ that God has heard our prayers?
Last edited by RV on Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:44 am; edited 1 time in total
Re: The Concept of 'Praying Through', biblical?
I'd never heard the term as far as i can remember. Found this though.
https://rosilindjukic.com/forget-this-when-you-pray/
Not particularly helpful but that was all i could find.
https://rosilindjukic.com/forget-this-when-you-pray/
Not particularly helpful but that was all i could find.
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I've done a bible study on prayer. adn it was very interesting and changed my thinking on prayer and the way i prayed.
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Calypso Jones wrote:I've done a bible study on prayer. adn it was very interesting and changed my thinking on prayer and the way i prayed.
It is a very interesting subject. Our will versus God's in regards to prayer.
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and how to pray. If we choose not to pray on a particular subject then God takes it as we don't care one way or the other. We need to pray about the wicked cruel things that God handles it. My group and i prayed for 4 plus years on the RoeVWade thing...but my solutions were not God's. Frankly it was an eye opener what he did and showed me again that he will do it the way he wants.
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Calypso Jones wrote:and how to pray. If we choose not to pray on a particular subject then God takes it as we don't care one way or the other. We need to pray about the wicked cruel things that God handles it. My group and i prayed for 4 plus years on the RoeVWade thing...but my solutions were not God's. Frankly it was an eye opener what he did and showed me again that he will do it the way he wants.
Sometimes, as with the Roe V. Wade issue, school shootings, etc. God allows humans to sin and do the devil's bidding if they choose to do so. I don't justify murder nor the taking of innocent life but, cannot stop all life from being taken nor all criminal activity.
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I'm sorta getting the idea that praying through may mean praying till you get an answer. I don't think that is the proper thing to do. You can keep praying but don't be forcing God to make a move in your time. Well...actually he does answer prayer or does his will in OUR time. He uses human time to put the right people in the right place or vise versa.
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Calypso Jones wrote:I'm sorta getting the idea that praying through may mean praying till you get an answer. I don't think that is the proper thing to do. You can keep praying but don't be forcing God to make a move in your time. Well...actually he does answer prayer or does his will in OUR time. He uses human time to put the right people in the right place or vise versa.
My question is who is giving those 'answers'? God or the devil? Demons? The person's own conscience?
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