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Post by RV Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:35 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:They will say that the intolerant christians have been taken away by Extraterrestrials.  Yes.  they will celebrate.    just like Revelation says that people of earth celebrated the deaths of the two prophets in Jerusalem.

I believe that the Bible states that while they are celebrating, destruction will come upon them. So much so that they will wish the mountains to crumble and fall on top of them.
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Post by Casey Jones Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:31 am

Poor Hanson.

His is a sharp intellect, a keen power of observation, and all of it governed by common sense.

And none of those attributes are seen as virtues, anymore. No one will read VDH, when you get social approval by shouting obscenities outside a church or Trump's courtroom.
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Post by Lummy Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:17 pm

Jacobins. Yeah, ... who?
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Post by Lummy Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:18 pm

Casey Jones wrote:Poor Hanson.

His is a sharp intellect, a keen power of observation, and all of it governed by common sense.

And none of those attributes are seen as virtues, anymore.  No one will read VDH, when you get social approval by shouting obscenities outside a church or Trump's courtroom.

I've heard of him but that's about it.
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Post by jirqoadai Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:43 pm

this subject requires huge history lessons in order to be logical. they executed the leader because he knew how mishmash it was gonna get if he kept hands off. so everything good and bad from this episode couldve been reversed accordingly.
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Post by Casey Jones Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:43 pm

Lummy wrote:Jacobins. Yeah, ... who?

Are you serious?

The Jacobins were a political-philosophy society in France, mostly comprised of well-to-do professionals, but not nobility. They wanted change and the misrule of the feckless King Louis seemed to cry out for it.

Maximilian Robespierre, one of their leaders, emerged as the leader of the French Revolution. The Reign of Terror was in fact done deliberately - his idea, and even his wording.

It's a very long story, and for Robespierre, the story has a satisfying ending. The General Assembly turned on its own - Robespierre, on the floor, prepared to denounce several members. In that chaos, a denouncement was an accusation and also a finding of Guilty - nothing more need be said. But before Robespierre could get to the "good part" one of his intended victims shot him in the mouth with a dueling pistol.

The rest of the Assembly, like the mad dogs they were, turned on him; hustled him off to the Bastille and next day, his jaw broken and bleeding, he had his neck fitted in the National Razor.

Read up on it. There are whole books written about it, and if you're interested, it's darkly fascinating.
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Post by Lummy Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:53 am

Casey Jones wrote:
Lummy wrote:Jacobins. Yeah, ... who?

Are you serious?

I take it you're a French historian.

The Jacobins were a political-philosophy society in France, mostly comprised of well-to-do professionals, but not nobility.  They wanted change and the misrule of the feckless King Louis seemed to cry out for it.

Maximilian Robespierre, one of their leaders, emerged as the leader of the French Revolution.  The Reign of Terror was in fact done deliberately  - his idea, and even his wording.

It's a very long story, and for Robespierre, the story has a satisfying ending.  The General Assembly turned on its own - Robespierre, on the floor, prepared to denounce several members.  In that chaos, a denouncement was an accusation and also a finding of Guilty - nothing more need be said.  But before Robespierre could get to the "good part" one of his intended victims shot him in the mouth with a dueling pistol.

The rest of the Assembly, like the mad dogs they were, turned on him; hustled him off to the Bastille and next day, his jaw broken and bleeding, he had his neck fitted in the National Razor.

Read up on it.  There are whole books written about it, and if you're interested, it's darkly fascinating.

Well, you seem to know a lot about it.
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Post by Lummy Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:14 am

Find how they're funded. Cut it off.
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Post by Calypso Jones Sat Apr 08, 2023 9:13 am

Another interesting read are the differences in the French Revolution and the American Revolution.    Some of the things the french did under the reign of terror ...frightening ( make that terrifying) but also a lesson for anyone using those techniques in order to control and change society.
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Post by Casey Jones Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:14 pm

Lummy wrote:Find how they're funded. Cut it off.

Gates Foundation and Soros' Open Society Project.

Indirectly, through government money-printing. Even if no checks pass from government to foundation, the money-printing translates (through banks buying stocks) to more money to rich people to DONATE to these misanthropic NGOs.
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