The Arthur M Anderson's Duluth Arrival

Look at the Bow Closely! Once you see it you can't unsee it! The Arthur M Anderson's Duluth Arrival!  




I've no idea what I'm supposed to be looking at on the bow of this ship.  The guy is a complete kook!  Longggggggg ship though.

is that a radiation symbol????? no...radiation symbol is three blades in the circle.....this is four. What does that mean??

I couldn't see it all that well, but that's what I thought also.

It's not a radiation symbol.  No-one in the comments has a clue either although one suggested that the author might be trying too hard to see it as an Iron Cross but it isn't that either.  

Kook!

Calypso Jones wrote:is that a radiation symbol?????  no...radiation symbol is three blades in the circle.....this is four.    What does that mean??

Side thruster below. It's a warning to tugs and maintenance types, that there's going to be some action there, when maneuvering in close quarters. Thrusters are impeller pumps, not exposed props; but if a small tug or just a boat that's sharing the lock with that boat, gets too close, and the thruster is used, it could tip it over in the wash.

I don't know what I'm to be looking at, either. The whole boat looks pretty ratty...which is to be expected. It's 70 years old, now...far past its expected service life. Perhaps they're just letting it go, anticipating a scrapping.

I guess it shows how hurt is the business of iron-ore shipping on the Great Lakes, that they're no longer investing in new boats. But it is interesting that at the fitting of self-unloading equipment, they kept the steam turbine engine instead of putting in a far-more-fuel efficient marine diesel engine. That's done with most older ships with any extensive updating...even the QE2, built in 1968, got repowered in 1995 with a MAN (German company) marine diesel, to keep operating costs down.

It is indeed the symbol for bow thrusters!

In the original pics, a U.S Steel Corp logo emblem sits slightly forward on the bow.
The later pics show no emblem and a badly needed paint job.

The ship was re-outfitted in 2017-2019 according to the lady in the audio.
That's prolly when the thrusters and new emblem were added.

HawkTheSlayer wrote:It is indeed the symbol for bow thrusters!

In the original pics, a U.S Steel Corp logo emblem sits slightly forward on the bow.
The later pics show no emblem and a badly needed paint job.

The ship was re-outfitted in 2017-2019 according to the lady in the audio.  
That's prolly when the thrusters and new emblem were added.

I thought it was...earlier. When they put the self-unloaders on.

The ship is no longer owned by US Steel. A division of Canadian National owns it now. And Canadian National is not the railroad it was twenty years ago...it used to be a class act, but no more. For 18 months I worked for them, and they've gone more downhill since.

An American, E. Hunter Harrison, wound up as president of the privatized CN...he came from the Illinois Central railway, and a more backwards haywire road you can not imagine. CN bought the IC after the Southern Railway declined a purchase, even at next to nothing. The Southern CEO said that to bring the IC up to Southern Railway standards would bankrupt the company.

Instead, the Southern bought the Norfolk & Western, and CN bought the IC. Brought Hunter the Dunderhead in...and he imposed operational chaos. I was on the former Wisconsin Central, which CN bought at the same time, to seamlessly connect, Vancouver to New Orleans. But Hunter Harrison's methods of operation didn't work well.

Hunter went on to screw up the Canadian Pacific, and then, got a job offer to work his magic on CSX. He was a busy guy...he died six months after starting with CSX, but his lieutenant, Jim Foote, is still there, still screwing it up.

Point being, though...CN ownership is doing exactly what I would expect, to that old ore boat.

all ore boats are off Superior by the middle of november. so this vid cant be recent. lets compare apples with apples. for all we know, Aurthur Anderson could be in dry dock right now. its certainly not in Duluth

jirqoadai wrote:all ore boats are off Superior by the middle of november. so this vid cant be recent. lets compare apples with apples. for all we know, Aurthur Anderson could be in dry dock right now. its certainly not in Duluth

It was taken August of this year.

Bow Thrusters: I did a little research. Now, I was in the Navy, but I wasn't a Deck Ape....no, I was a clerk down below. The Navy has "Yeoman" and "Personnelman" ratings for clerk work (just Yeoman, now) but on a civilian ship, doing that work, my title would have been "Supercargo" - superintendent of cargo (and of ship's documentation).

Means I neither operated the propelling machinery (aside from a short time when I was pressed into standing Helmsman Watch, because Deck Department was shorthanded of non-Petty-Officer types). And anyway, I never saw a Navy ship with thrusters. I suppose you could fire the large guns over the side to get some thrust, but mostly we used tugs when in foreign harbors.

So...I went online. I was wrong - those are NOT impellers; those are props cut into the bow projection (that thing under the waterline that looks like a large penis) - into that, they cut a circular opening and tube, one side to the other. There's one propeller in there, obviously electrically operated and reversible. A metal grid to keep crud out.

But I can't imagine the amount of drag that would recreate. I'm surprised no one thought of power sliding doors over the thruster opening; but I found several ships' pics, when in drydock, that makes it plain.

so you admit youre speculating on the current capabilities of her. good. im sure the owners will try according to all regulations the very best to get the most bang for the buck on that investment. you ever hear of Algoma? they went chink. two lake freighters made by korea in china. i dont kbow who owns the Arthur. if its american, i wish them luck. if its foreign, maybe two deckhands will miss departure before an ice storm drags her down.