Apple is Chi-com ally and abettor.

Apple actively helps Chi-coms stop decent.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1597773424516300801

"Apple is in no sense American. Apple's loyalty is to the government of China." -- Tucker.

It's where the chi-com money is. That's almost axiomatic. No, it is an established fact.

It's infuriating that Apple does not share the ethical, moral responsibility that heavily burdens others doing business in China.

Conversely, the Chinese love it that Apple is not American.

Lummy wrote:It's where the chi-com money is. That's almost axiomatic. No, it is an established fact.

It's also where Apple money is. In China.

Did you realize, once upon a time, Apple manufactured their products themselves? In a factory in Fountain, Colorado. Near Colorado Springs. Actually the perfect place for a startup company - at the time, the Springs were quite conservative and business friendly. It was like one big small town, or a military base. There WERE no bad sections of town, really, aside from trailer parks outside the city limits.

A number of California firms moved in, branch offices or relocating. Apple was one - IIRC, Colorado at the time wanted to draw manufacturing, and they had both the German company Neoplan put up a bus factory in Lamar, and Apple open up in Fountain, with the promise of more.

Neoplan closed their American operations - I don't think they even sell in America anymore; they didn't understand how buses are used here, or how bad are city streets. Lots of lawsuits. Apple, likewise, closed. I happened to be in the area at the time - it was 1996, IIRC. Apple was on the rocks - Jobs hadn't yet returned; and the company was looking to save money any way they could. They started licensing "clone" computers, and contracting their own products out to China.

Jobs returned, but not the jobs. Jobs talked a good game, sounded almost conservative; but he saw the savings in China assembly and left it there.

Now, Chy Nuh owns a big share of his company; and AAPL's future is tied to the CCP. So...it WILL serve as a cultural extension of the CCP, for however long this asymetric three-sided world war continues before turning hot.

Such is the global alliance of many multi-national companies based in the U. S. They have little loyalty to to domestic issues. Only profit and power/control satisfies them.

Boeing is a major player on the global scene. Parts are sourced from all over the world.

And they build top secret, military aircraft for many countries. Including Russia and China.

HawkTheSlayer wrote:Such is the global alliance of many multi-national companies based in the U. S. They have little loyalty to to domestic issues. Only profit and power/control satisfies them.

Boeing is a major player on the global scene. Parts are sourced from all over the world.

And they build top secret, military aircraft for many countries. Including Russia and China.

I don't want corporations to have loyalty. I don't want them INVOLVED in politics.

The Fruit Company, and its Head Fruit, should have been prosecuted for interfering with Free Speech and free and open access, in its platforms, apps, stores. In this case, the tech companies are essentially public utilities or common carriers - they have a responsibility and duty to serve ALL without consideration of views or politics.

But that ship sailed long ago. Cleaning it up will involve, first, educating two generations on what is "Free Speech" and why corporate ESGs and political stances are dangerous things.

Lummy wrote:Apple actively helps Chi-coms stop decent.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1597773424516300801

"Apple is in no sense American. Apple's loyalty is to the government of China." -- Tucker.

lol.   The two top choices for signing into Twitter are with either, a) Google, or b) Apple.  

I, too, wish that businesses would stay the heck away from politics, with the possible exception of manufacturing of our military equipment.  Made in the USA, please.