Trump or DeSantis

With the midterms behind us and 2024 already shaping up, the elephant in the room needs to be addressed.  Trump has all but announced his intention to run, and there is no reason to think DeSantis won’t do the same.  There are other possible contenders (Haley, Pompeo, Pence, Noemi, etc.) but Trump and DeSantis have already emerged as the clear front runners.  And with the information available to us now, I would argue that DeSantis is the better choice.

Let me be clear, I am very grateful to Trump for what he accomplished during his presidency.  I voted for Trump in the 2016 primary, in the 2016 election, in the 2020 election, and would wholeheartedly vote for him again in 2024 if he is the nominee.  I support almost everything he did during his tenure, I loved how he took the media to task, and I felt the Deep State-media alliance against him was one of the most despicable, unconstitutional stains on our nation’s history.  He exposed Conservative Caribbean Cruises Inc. for the weathervane fraud that it was.  He destroyed the Bush, Cheney, and Clinton dynasties.  He changed American politics forever, and try as they might, neither the Left nor their NeverTrump sock puppets can put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Trump was exactly the right man for 2016.  But Trump is currently devolving into more of a permanent liability than anything else, and he’s reached a point where his faults outweigh his virtues.

Full article at the link   ...   https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/11/desantis_in_2024.html

Good article imo.

Trump did a great job, he just not a great person,

My money will go on DeSantis

On the other side   ...

It is striking to consider the number of conservatives and Republican stalwarts who insist that Trump should not run in 2024 and should cede the field to Ron DeSantis. I have come across this argument time and again, and it never ceases to baffle me. Even one of my astute and celebrated editors at another outlet cannot disguise his animus against Trump, which I find as astonishing as it is myopic. The essential points of this argument go something like this:

   Trump is too crude in his habitual verbal comportment, lacking in the polish and restraint we associate with the presidency at its ideal best.

   Trump continues to dwell on a rigged 2020 election, a grievance that casts him in the light of a sore loser and renders him something of an obsessive.

   Trump is too old. After Biden, another geriatric president would be a liability. DeSantis is in his early forties and represents a vital alternative to the specter of feebleness and senility exhibited by Biden.

   Trump is too controversial and would generate considerable opposition.

All these points, I believe, can be easily rebutted.

   It is true that Trump is neither elegant, conciliatory, nor urbane, but he should be judged on his record, not his lack of refinement and gentility. And his presidency was the most successful and beneficial since that of Ronald Reagan. That’s what counts.

   Trump’s preoccupation with a stolen election is perfectly legitimate. It is the greatest shame and disgrace in American political history and, after the Supreme Court’s pusillanimous bailout, absolutely needs to be addressed.

   Trump is hale, healthy, smart, and vigorous. Witness the energy and stamina on display in his frequent and protracted rallies. There is no need to worry. DeSantis, for his part, must concentrate on Florida as the new bellwether state. His refusal to declare his intentions on remaining a four-year governor may cost him in his debates with his rival Charlie Crist. 2028 is DeSantis’ year.

   Trump is obviously controversial, but this aspect of his character and self-presentation does not detract from his potential candidacy. He is obviously the Democrats’ greatest peril, from their perspective one that must be neutralized in any presidential contest. The Russiagate scandal, the banning on Facebook and Twitter, two attempted impeachments, the J-6 katzenjammer, the relentless media attacks on his reputation, the illegal and unprovoked raid on his private residence, and a recent subpoena all point to the fact that the Democrats regard him as the greatest threat to their hopes and plans. An onslaught of this magnitude clearly indicates that the Democrats see him as a major impediment to retaining the White House. Trump is undoubtedly the man they fear most. This alone is sufficient evidence to justify his 2024 primary nomination.

https://pjmedia.com/columns/david-solway-2/2022/10/26/why-it-has-to-be-trump-n1640236

It's looking like an old folks home. I can't remember who it was but one who was re-elected in the midterms was 90 years old. That's TOO old.

What ever your views on trump may be, He's too device, spoiled goods, elections are won in the middle

vege57 wrote:What ever your views on trump may be, He's too device, spoiled goods, elections are won in the middle

Yes, I really liked trump. He is too aggressive and divisive though, he cannot accept other peoples ideas if they differ from his.
He cannot accept losing. I've encountered this attitude in other americans in real life.
They don't play well with others if anything goes not their way. It seems to be the culture to some degree.

He did really well to win over Hillary.
He did really well to visit the despot of Nth Korea.
He did really well to launch Operation Warp Speed.

He failed on the way he deals with people. He is competitive, not cooperative.
He's a bit loose with the truth .

He is a good man.

well...it's going back to business as usual then isn't it.

Hitler was right and the US media puts it to use....Tell a lie often enough.. and it will be believed.

https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2019/08/06/america-is-drowning-in-the-lefts-lies-about-trump-n2551237

youngkin has stabbed Mr. Trump in the back...the man responsible for him being governor.

So is Desantis wno is now in private talks with deep state repunks to make sure he is on track for his future as long as it means destroying President Trump.

Do you think EVEN DESANTIS will do for Americans and America what President Trump did?   He won't. We'll be back to both sides taking more power and more of our freedoms till there are none left. Will you then Blame President Trump for that too?? Just like the dems do? I'll wager a big fat yes on that.