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Post by 2cent Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:09 pm

In this lengthy interview with John Ratcliffe and Maria Bartiromo, the former Director of National Intelligence, the man who has likely seen every document that may have eventually ended up in Mar-a-Lago, is challenging the nature of the classified status of those documents.   Ratcliffe does not believe the Mar-a-Lago documents are true national security documents, but rather documents that outline fraudulent ‘sources and methods’ used by the DOJ/FBI in their Trump targeting operation.

Keep in mind that as the DNI during 2020, Ratcliffe saw the documents that eventually became the material President Trump declassified and left with the DOJ to release after the Durham investigation was complete.  If Ratcliffe’s suspicions are correct, and there is more valid reason to support his suspicions than oppose them, then the entire construct of the DOJ-NSD operation to retrieve those documents from Mar-a-Lago is factually one big cover-up operation.
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Like we all suspected, the documents are most likely not 'Classified', nor Top Secret, and more likely papers that expose the FBI's wrong doing.  

FWIW, the interview isn't all that long.  12 mins.
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Post by Daily Bread Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:51 pm

2cent wrote:
In this lengthy interview with John Ratcliffe and Maria Bartiromo, the former Director of National Intelligence, the man who has likely seen every document that may have eventually ended up in Mar-a-Lago, is challenging the nature of the classified status of those documents.   Ratcliffe does not believe the Mar-a-Lago documents are true national security documents, but rather documents that outline fraudulent ‘sources and methods’ used by the DOJ/FBI in their Trump targeting operation.

Keep in mind that as the DNI during 2020, Ratcliffe saw the documents that eventually became the material President Trump declassified and left with the DOJ to release after the Durham investigation was complete.  If Ratcliffe’s suspicions are correct, and there is more valid reason to support his suspicions than oppose them, then the entire construct of the DOJ-NSD operation to retrieve those documents from Mar-a-Lago is factually one big cover-up operation.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/

Like we all suspected, the documents are most likely not 'Classified', nor Top Secret, and more likely papers that expose the FBI's wrong doing.  

FWIW, the interview isn't all that long.  12 mins.
Ive been perplexed about this whole incident . Since the FBI are "self policing " what is stopping them from doctoring and placing info that wasn't there in the first place ? They certainly aren't above setting someone up and could write a book on the subject . As far as I'm concerned , and quite a few other Americans , I lost all faith in them and the entire agency needs to be disbanded - all its employees cannot have another government job and an open investigation on its decisions and leaders needs to be done by a civilian review board .
After the Lois Lerner IRS fiasco with nothing done by Republicans or Democrats , we no longer trust Government agencies .
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Post by RV Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:16 pm

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In this lengthy interview with John Ratcliffe and Maria Bartiromo, the former Director of National Intelligence, the man who has likely seen every document that may have eventually ended up in Mar-a-Lago, is challenging the nature of the classified status of those documents.   Ratcliffe does not believe the Mar-a-Lago documents are true national security documents, but rather documents that outline fraudulent ‘sources and methods’ used by the DOJ/FBI in their Trump targeting operation.

Keep in mind that as the DNI during 2020, Ratcliffe saw the documents that eventually became the material President Trump declassified and left with the DOJ to release after the Durham investigation was complete.  If Ratcliffe’s suspicions are correct, and there is more valid reason to support his suspicions than oppose them, then the entire construct of the DOJ-NSD operation to retrieve those documents from Mar-a-Lago is factually one big cover-up operation.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/

Like we all suspected, the documents are most likely not 'Classified', nor Top Secret, and more likely papers that expose the FBI's wrong doing.  

FWIW, the interview isn't all that long.  12 mins.
Ive been perplexed about this whole incident . Since the FBI are "self policing " what is stopping them from doctoring and placing info that wasn't there in the first place ? They certainly aren't above setting someone up and could write a book on the subject . As far as I'm concerned , and quite a few other Americans , I lost all faith in them and the entire agency needs to be disbanded - all its employees cannot have another government job and an open investigation on its decisions and leaders needs to be done by a civilian review board .
After the Lois Lerner IRS fiasco with nothing done by Republicans or Democrats , we no longer trust Government agencies .

I haven't trusted the FBI nor the government since the fiasco with HRC and how they ignored the law. The whole deadly affair with Benghazi and the four dead Americans showed me that there were no checks and balances and life was politically expendable.
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Post by Red Lily Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:34 pm

I just hope that Trump was smart enough to keep the most incriminating documents somewhere other than in a store room at Mar-a-Lago.
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Post by Daily Bread Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:00 pm

Red Lily wrote:I just hope that Trump was smart enough to keep the most incriminating documents somewhere other than in a store room at Mar-a-Lago.
He's a step ahead of them . The FBI told Trumps security(all ex CIA because he doesn't trust gov supplied security ) to turn off the cameras -they turned off the little blinking red lights and the FBI thought the cameras were off . They know it and if they prosecute those videos will come out at the appropriate time .
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Post by Red Lily Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:28 pm

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Red Lily wrote:I just hope that Trump was smart enough to keep the most incriminating documents somewhere other than in a store room at Mar-a-Lago.
He's a step ahead of them . The FBI told Trumps security(all ex CIA because he doesn't trust gov supplied security ) to turn off the cameras  -they turned off the little blinking red lights and the FBI  thought the cameras were off  . They know it and if they prosecute those videos will come out at the appropriate time .  

I hope you're right DB and I really don't think Trump actually is that stupid but, if that's the case, why not bring out the videos now anyway? The constant threat to indict is damaging in and of itself and swaying people who may otherwise take Trump's side.
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Post by vege57 Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:53 pm

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Red Lily wrote:I just hope that Trump was smart enough to keep the most incriminating documents somewhere other than in a store room at Mar-a-Lago.
He's a step ahead of them . The FBI told Trumps security(all ex CIA because he doesn't trust gov supplied security ) to turn off the cameras  -they turned off the little blinking red lights and the FBI  thought the cameras were off  . They know it and if they prosecute those videos will come out at the appropriate time .  

I hope you're right DB and I really don't think Trump actually is that stupid but, if that's the case, why not bring out the videos now anyway?  The constant threat to indict is damaging in and of itself and swaying people who may otherwise take Trump's side.

A smart guy would have scanned and stored them digitally, Or is that a bigger crime than having them in your possession ?
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Post by Daily Bread Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:16 pm

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Daily Bread wrote:
Red Lily wrote:I just hope that Trump was smart enough to keep the most incriminating documents somewhere other than in a store room at Mar-a-Lago.
He's a step ahead of them . The FBI told Trumps security(all ex CIA because he doesn't trust gov supplied security ) to turn off the cameras  -they turned off the little blinking red lights and the FBI  thought the cameras were off  . They know it and if they prosecute those videos will come out at the appropriate time .  

I hope you're right DB and I really don't think Trump actually is that stupid but, if that's the case, why not bring out the videos now anyway?  The constant threat to indict is damaging in and of itself and swaying people who may otherwise take Trump's side.

Never show your cards ! Trump is a very successful businessman - the FBI are government workers taught by other government workers that can only succeed by making sure they produce and control everything for an outcome . They really aren't as bright as we give them credit for - they only act if they can write the play .
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Post by RV Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:34 pm

Red Lily wrote:I just hope that Trump was smart enough to keep the most incriminating documents somewhere other than in a store room at Mar-a-Lago.

"Most incriminating documents"? Who needs incriminating documents? The FBI has been pursuing President Trump since he first declared that he was running. It doesn't take any "documents" to fake charges, plant evidence or claim that someone is guilty of something. All it takes is a complete lack of ethics and political motivation.
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Post by Red Lily Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:37 pm

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Red Lily wrote:I just hope that Trump was smart enough to keep the most incriminating documents somewhere other than in a store room at Mar-a-Lago.

"Most incriminating documents"? Who needs incriminating documents? The FBI has been pursuing President Trump since he first declared that he was running. It doesn't take any "documents" to fake charges, plant evidence or claim that someone is guilty of something. All it takes is a complete lack of ethics and political motivation.

I was referring to incriminating documents Trump may have against the deep state and, yes, he will need them.
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