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Post by RV Sun May 01, 2022 4:21 pm

There are a number of states that now have "Constitutional Carry". It means that civilians are legally allowed to carry a weapon without a "permit" IF they are not Felons.

Democrats, liberals and Marxists alike have all communicated their dislike for weapons of any kind, (unless a criminal has them). These same groups have all denounced this policy as a "license to shoot anyone they disagree with". Supposedly as with the CCW permits, there were going to be shoot-outs and dead bodies stacked in the streets from all of the carnage.

Having said that, many states had CCW (Concealed Carry Permits), and virtually nothing happened except crime going down.

My question is of the states that have Constitutional Carry, what is and what was the murder rate? Democrats, liberals and Marxists alike all claim that the murder and suicide rates will skyrocket with Constitutional Carry. Does the REAL data, the REAL "science", the REAL facts show that or is this once again more Democrat, liberal, Marxist lies?


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Post by jirqoadai Sun May 01, 2022 4:33 pm

vermont was one of the very first, if not the first, for constitutional carry.
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Post by Crusader Sun May 01, 2022 10:21 pm

You can't just compare Constitutional Carry states with prison states. Each states location, size, and economic states are different. Some states allow cities to override state laws within their jurisdiction and screw it up for the rest of the state.

There are some states that I think you can compare. I like to compare Texas and California. They are opposite on the political spectrum in just about every way, but their murder rates are very similar. They are both large states and both are located on the Mexican border. Texas has Constitutional Carry and shall issue LTC while California tries to outlaw every gun not carried by the government or a criminal. People are fleeing California in droves and Texas is growing just as fast and personal freedom and economic policy have everything to do with it.
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Post by RV Mon May 02, 2022 7:15 am

Crusader wrote:You can't just compare Constitutional Carry states with prison states.  Each states location, size, and economic states are different.  Some states allow cities to override state laws within their jurisdiction and screw it up for the rest of the state.

There are some states that I think you can compare.  I like to compare Texas and California.  They are opposite on the political spectrum in just about every way, but their murder rates are very similar.  They are both large states and both are located on the Mexican border.  Texas has Constitutional Carry and shall issue LTC while California tries to outlaw every gun not carried by the government or a criminal.  People are fleeing California in droves and Texas is growing just as fast and personal freedom and economic policy have everything to do with it.

There are many factors which the Democrats will use to claim that you cannot compare states. My point was that Democrats lie and make up statistics to support their nonsensical claims. In the same way Democrats want to label a semi-automatic rifle as an "assault weapon" even though REAL assault weapons are SELECT FIRE weapons capable of automatic fire. These Democrats who want to label a semi-automatic rifle as a "weapon of war" would never go to war with a semi-automatic rifle because that would be suicide.

Baby murder is labeled as "choice". "Equality" is how blatant discrimination is spun, again certain groups are targeted. It's political theater meant for sheeple who cannot or will not think for themselves. In the same way Democrats like to throw the word "free" around rather than admit that whatever "free" item they are talking about actually costs money. Democrats call taxes "fair share" even though it's not fair nor a share. Taxes are really legalized theft without a gun.

It's the same lack of mentality and science that assumes that a piece of cloth is going to stop a virus that is several times smaller than the smallest pore. It's like using a chain-link fence to stop water. An untried, unproven, untested "Vaccine" is somehow going to stop a virus that was created in a lab as a bio-weapon and oh by the way, sign this document absolving us from ANY legal liability should you have ANY medical complications down the road.

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