Israel at War

The Mariner wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12615257/Mother-missing-Shani-Louk-says-shes-told-shes-ALIVE-Tattoo-artist-paraded-Hamas-truck-Nova-festival-massacre-critically-ill-Gaza-hospital.html

The mother of German tattoo artist Shani Louk, who was believed to have been murdered by Hamas gunmen during Saturday's brutal attack on an Israeli music festival, has claimed she received word from Palestine her daughter is still alive.

{This BS is going around now.  I've seen the video of the young lady in the back of the truck as they were cheering & spitting on her & her limbs had been bent in directions that should NEVER be bent that way.  I think the islamists are lying.  No way that young lady was still alive.}

you're absolutely right. I remember when my friend died unexpectedly...her husband found her and he dragged her off the sofa and put her on the floor so he could do chest compressions and breathing. he said, it wasn't easy getting her off the sofa because he legs were going in the most awful directions...positions no one could do if alive. that girl was dead. And at that point, it was probably a blessing.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/equality-not-elitism/israel-war-the-fundamental-incoherence-of-queers-for-palestine

No phenomenon better illustrates this incoherence than the “Queers for Palestine” solidarity movement. There are groups that are dedicated to this cause , and it has filtered through to the broader pro-Palestine movement. From the rainbow flags seen at pro-Hamas demonstrations to the Palestinian flag and rainbow flag flying side by side at Rep. Rashida Tlaib’s (D-MI) congressional office , many so-called supporters of LGBT rights are also adamantly defending Palestine in the escalating conflict.



That’s like chickens getting together and supporting KFC.

While Israel isn’t perfect on questions of LGBT rights, it is an essentially free country where gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people can live openly. In fact, Israel hosts some of the biggest gay pride parades in the world.

The Palestinian territories, on the other hand, both legally and culturally sanction homosexuality to an astounding degree. Here’s how the Jerusalem Post summed up this state of affairs : “According to Palestinian law, being gay is punishable by up to 10 years in prison and in Gaza, it’s punishable by death.

If islam becomes the dominating influence in the US meaning they run everything...do you think Tlaib will continue to fly that gay flag outside her office? LOLOL

Using the Strauss-Howe model, we have about four more years of this.

The Fourth Turning.

And no guarantee that what comes after it, will be as good as the previous Generational Cycle.

U.S. troops positioned in the Middle East have been attacked 14 times in the last week with a mix of one-way drones and rockets, resulting in 24 people getting injured, according to Pentagon officials.

U.S. Department of Defense spokesman Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder confirmed Tuesday that troops in Iraq had been attacked 11 times between Oct. 17-24, while during the same period troops in Syria had been attacked three times.

Pentagon officials said Monday that all the attacks on U.S. troops have Iran's fingerprints on them, though there is no evidence at this time showing the country's leaders ordered the attacks.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-troops-middle-east-attacked-thirteen-times-last-week-pentagon

Something's gonna blow.

Red Lily wrote:U.S. troops positioned in the Middle East have been attacked 14 times in the last week with a mix of one-way drones and rockets, resulting in 24 people getting injured, according to Pentagon officials.

U.S. Department of Defense spokesman Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder confirmed Tuesday that troops in Iraq had been attacked 11 times between Oct. 17-24, while during the same period troops in Syria had been attacked three times.

Pentagon officials said Monday that all the attacks on U.S. troops have Iran's fingerprints on them, though there is no evidence at this time showing the country's leaders ordered the attacks.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-troops-middle-east-attacked-thirteen-times-last-week-pentagon

Something's gonna blow.

""Pentagon officials said Monday that all the attacks on U.S. troops have Iran's fingerprints on them""

Iran uses its proxies, As does America

Casey Jones wrote:Using the Strauss-Howe model, we have about four more years of this.

The Fourth Turning.

And no guarantee that what comes after it, will be as good as the previous Generational Cycle.

""Strauss-Howe model""


An American author and a playwright ,

Lets ask Stephen king and see what he thinks

vege57 wrote:

Casey Jones wrote:Using the Strauss-Howe model, we have about four more years of this.

The Fourth Turning.

And no guarantee that what comes after it, will be as good as the previous Generational Cycle.

""Strauss-Howe model""


An American author and a playwright ,

Lets ask Stephen king and see what he thinks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory

The Strauss–Howe generational theory, devised by William Strauss and Neil Howe, describes a theorized recurring generation cycle in American history and Western history. According to the theory, historical events are associated with recurring generational personas (archetypes). Each generational persona unleashes a new era (called a turning) lasting around 20–25 years, in which a new social, political, and economic climate (mood) exists. They are part of a larger cyclical "saeculum" (a long human life, which usually spans between 80 and 100 years, although some saecula have lasted longer). The theory states that a crisis recurs in American history after every saeculum, which is followed by a recovery (high). During this recovery, institutions and communitarian values are strong. Ultimately, succeeding generational archetypes attack and weaken institutions in the name of autonomy and individualism, which eventually creates a tumultuous political environment that ripens conditions for another crisis.[citation needed]

Strauss and Howe laid the groundwork for their theory in their book Generations: The History of America's Future, 1584 to 2069 (1991), which discusses the history of the United States as a series of generational biographies going back to 1584.[1] In their book The Fourth Turning (1997), the authors expanded the theory to focus on a fourfold cycle of generational types and recurring mood eras[2] to describe the history of the United States, including the Thirteen Colonies and their British antecedents. However, the authors have also examined generational trends elsewhere in the world and described similar cycles in several developed countries.[3]

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William Strauss and Neil Howe's partnership began in the late 1980s when they began writing their first book Generations, which discusses the history of the United States as a succession of generational biographies. Each had written on generational topics: Strauss on Baby Boomers and the Vietnam War draft, and Howe on the G.I. Generation and federal entitlement programs.[16] Strauss co-wrote two books with Lawrence Baskir about how the Vietnam War affected the Baby Boomers: Chance and Circumstance: The Draft, the War, and the Vietnam Generation (1978) and Reconciliation after Vietnam (1977). Neil Howe studied what he believed to be the U.S.'s entitlement attitude of the 1980s and co-authored On Borrowed Time: How the Growth in Entitlement Spending Threatens America's Future in 1988 with Peter George Peterson.[17] The authors' interest in generations as a broader topic emerged after they met in Washington, D.C., and began discussing the connections between each of their previous works.[18]

They wondered why Boomers and G.I.s had developed such different ways of looking at the world, and what it was about these generations' experiences growing up that prompted their different outlooks. They also wondered whether any previous generations had acted along similar lines, and their research discussed historical analogs to the current generations. They ultimately described a recurring pattern in the Anglo-American history of four generational types, each with a distinct collective persona, and a corresponding cycle of four different types of era, each with a distinct mood.[19] The groundwork for this theory was laid out in Generations in 1991. Generations helped popularize the idea that people in a particular age group tend to share a distinct set of beliefs, attitudes, values, and behaviors because they all grow up and come of age during a particular period in history.[8]

Strauss and Howe followed in 1993 with their second book 13th Gen: Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail?, which was published while Gen Xers were young adults. The book examines the generation born between 1961 and 1981, "Gen-Xers" (which they called "13ers", describing them as the thirteenth generation since the US became a nation). The book asserts that 13ers' location in history as under-protected children during the Consciousness Revolution explains their pragmatic attitude. They describe Gen Xers as growing up during a time when society was less focused on children and more focused on adults and their self-actualization.[20][2]

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Moar at linky.

Casey Jones wrote:

vege57 wrote:

Casey Jones wrote:Using the Strauss-Howe model, we have about four more years of this.

The Fourth Turning.

And no guarantee that what comes after it, will be as good as the previous Generational Cycle.

""Strauss-Howe model""


An American author and a playwright ,

Lets ask Stephen king and see what he thinks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory

The Strauss–Howe generational theory, devised by William Strauss and Neil Howe, describes a theorized recurring generation cycle in American history and Western history. According to the theory, historical events are associated with recurring generational personas (archetypes). Each generational persona unleashes a new era (called a turning) lasting around 20–25 years, in which a new social, political, and economic climate (mood) exists. They are part of a larger cyclical "saeculum" (a long human life, which usually spans between 80 and 100 years, although some saecula have lasted longer). The theory states that a crisis recurs in American history after every saeculum, which is followed by a recovery (high). During this recovery, institutions and communitarian values are strong. Ultimately, succeeding generational archetypes attack and weaken institutions in the name of autonomy and individualism, which eventually creates a tumultuous political environment that ripens conditions for another crisis.[citation needed]

Strauss and Howe laid the groundwork for their theory in their book Generations: The History of America's Future, 1584 to 2069 (1991), which discusses the history of the United States as a series of generational biographies going back to 1584.[1] In their book The Fourth Turning (1997), the authors expanded the theory to focus on a fourfold cycle of generational types and recurring mood eras[2] to describe the history of the United States, including the Thirteen Colonies and their British antecedents. However, the authors have also examined generational trends elsewhere in the world and described similar cycles in several developed countries.[3]

...

William Strauss and Neil Howe's partnership began in the late 1980s when they began writing their first book Generations, which discusses the history of the United States as a succession of generational biographies. Each had written on generational topics: Strauss on Baby Boomers and the Vietnam War draft, and Howe on the G.I. Generation and federal entitlement programs.[16] Strauss co-wrote two books with Lawrence Baskir about how the Vietnam War affected the Baby Boomers: Chance and Circumstance: The Draft, the War, and the Vietnam Generation (1978) and Reconciliation after Vietnam (1977). Neil Howe studied what he believed to be the U.S.'s entitlement attitude of the 1980s and co-authored On Borrowed Time: How the Growth in Entitlement Spending Threatens America's Future in 1988 with Peter George Peterson.[17] The authors' interest in generations as a broader topic emerged after they met in Washington, D.C., and began discussing the connections between each of their previous works.[18]

External video
video icon Booknotes interview with Howe and Strauss on Generations, April 14, 1991, C-SPAN
video icon Discussion with Howe and Strauss on The Fourth Turning, April 17, 1998, C-SPAN
They wondered why Boomers and G.I.s had developed such different ways of looking at the world, and what it was about these generations' experiences growing up that prompted their different outlooks. They also wondered whether any previous generations had acted along similar lines, and their research discussed historical analogs to the current generations. They ultimately described a recurring pattern in the Anglo-American history of four generational types, each with a distinct collective persona, and a corresponding cycle of four different types of era, each with a distinct mood.[19] The groundwork for this theory was laid out in Generations in 1991. Generations helped popularize the idea that people in a particular age group tend to share a distinct set of beliefs, attitudes, values, and behaviors because they all grow up and come of age during a particular period in history.[8]

Strauss and Howe followed in 1993 with their second book 13th Gen: Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail?, which was published while Gen Xers were young adults. The book examines the generation born between 1961 and 1981, "Gen-Xers" (which they called "13ers", describing them as the thirteenth generation since the US became a nation). The book asserts that 13ers' location in history as under-protected children during the Consciousness Revolution explains their pragmatic attitude. They describe Gen Xers as growing up during a time when society was less focused on children and more focused on adults and their self-actualization.[20][2]

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Moar at linky.

They are still just a couple of author's at the end of the day

That and more.

They put forth hypotheses; and those are proved, not with AI, not with computer "models," but with actual historical events and cycles of the past.

You can dismiss it if you like. It matters nothing to me.

The Mariner wrote:https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/ahlam-tamimi-haj.aspx


Clearly, when we are told that Islam is "against terrorism and the killing of innocent people," all is not what it seems.  The truth is that Islam has its own definition of "innocent people" in which heretics, apostates, 'hypocrites', consenting adults and non-submissive infidels do not qualify, and so killing them isn't "terror", but divinely sanctioned punishment or jihad.  In fact, Muhammad said he had been "made victorious through terror," and the Quran prescribes harsh treatment of both non-practicing Muslims and unbelievers.

That is the understanding of many muslims who are educated and have studied the koran for decades in it's original language.
Who are we to say they are wrong?

Most muslims do not think that way, some do.
The more 'islamic' a society becomes, the more they think that way