Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

4 posters

Page 1 of 2 1, 2  Next

Go down

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century Empty What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

Post by Calypso Jones Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:45 pm

https://fee.org/articles/what-the-nazis-had-in-common-with-every-other-collectivist-regime-in-the-20th-century/


What the Nazis Had in Common With Every Other Collectivist Regime in the 20th Century
Just like Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, and others, the Nazis claimed to be socialists, concentrated power in the State, and spurned the rights of individuals.
Thursday, July 29, 2021


History Socialism Nazism Nazis Nazi Germany Collectivism Christianity Individualism Totalitarianism
Today marks an infamous centennial. One hundred years ago—on July 29, 1921—Adolf Hitler assumed the leadership of the National Socialist German Workers Party, better known as the Nazis. It became his vehicle to power.

Note the formal, official name of the party. It was not the National Capitalist German Workers Party. It was not the National Free Market German Workers Party. Nor was it the National Christian German Workers Party. Yet a century later, claims that Nazis were capitalist or Christian or both—though preposterous—are still occasionally heard.

Though Hitler quoted Scripture early in his career when it was politically convenient (he lied often, incidentally), he also said the Bible was “a fairy tale invented by the Jews.” He appointed many vehement anti-Christians to high office; arrested, jailed, tortured and killed many priests and pastors; denied that Jesus was a Jew and even ordered a “new Bible” stripped of all references to Jews and Jewish history.

Baldur von Schirach, head of the Hitler Youth, certainly got the memo. “The destruction of Christianity was explicitly recognized as a purpose of the National Socialist movement,” he said, as noted in evidence produced at the Nuremberg trials and in this video.

In a story on the Nazi bible, London’s Daily Mail reported,

Hitler admired the ceremony and majesty of the church—he admitted as much in Mein Kampf—but hated its teachings, which had no place in his vision of Germanic supermen ruling lesser races devoid of ‘outdated’ concepts such as mercy and love. But he knew the power of the church in Germany and even he could not banish it overnight. He was even forced to abandon the systematic murder of the handicapped and insane before the war when outspoken bishops began to speak against it. Instead, his plan was to gradually ‘Nazify’ the church beginning with a theological centre he set up in 1939 to rewrite the Holy Bible.  

In the real Bible, Matthew 7:16 famously declares, “By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?” What Hitler and Nazism produced—genocide, warfare, state control, and endless evil in many forms—constitutes the very antithesis of the teachings of Jesus.

The lie that Nazism was capitalist instead of what the Nazis themselves said it was (namely, socialist) derives from the fact that the Hitler regime did not engage in wholesale or widespread nationalization of businesses. In the Third Reich, you might retain legal title to a factory but if you did not do as the Nazis ordered, you would be, shall we say, dispatched.

Writing in his magnum opus, Human Action, Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises explained that Nazism was “socialism under the outward guise of the terminology of capitalism”:

The second pattern [of socialism] (we may call it the Hindenburg or German pattern) nominally and seemingly preserves private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary markets, prices, wages, and interest rates. There are, however, no longer entrepreneurs, but only shop managers (Betriebsführer in the terminology of the Nazi legislation). These shop managers are seemingly instrumental in the conduct of the enterprises entrusted to them; they buy and sell, hire and discharge workers and remunerate their services, contract debts and pay interest and amortization. But in all their activities they are bound to obey unconditionally the orders issued by the government's supreme office of production management. This office (The Reichswirtschaftsministerium in Nazi Germany) tells the shop managers what and how to produce, at what prices and from whom to buy, at what prices and to whom to sell. It assigns every worker to his job and fixes his wages. It decrees to whom and on what terms the capitalists must entrust their funds. Market exchange is merely a sham. All the wages, prices, and interest rates are fixed by the government; they are wages, prices, and interest rates in appearance only; in fact they are merely quantitative terms in the government's orders determining each citizen's job, income, consumption, and standard of living. The government directs all production activities. The shop managers are subject to the government, not the consumers' demand and the market's price structure.

Does that look like capitalism to any thoughtful, honest person with no agenda but the truth? Hardly.

As I wrote in The Only Spectrum that Makes Sense, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Hitler, Mussolini were all anti-capitalist peas in the same socialist, collectivist pod:

They all claimed to be socialists. They all sought to concentrate power in the State and to glorify the State. They all stomped on individuals who wanted nothing more than to pursue their own ambitions in peaceful commerce. They all denigrated private property, either by outright seizure or regulating it to serve the purposes of the State.

Michael Rieger argues that some of the confusion about how to label Nazi economics stems from socialism’s ever-shifting varieties. Socialists are notorious for claiming “this is it” when they’re just writing or daydreaming about it and then claiming “that wasn’t it” when it flops. Rieger writes,

The wide variance between utopian socialism, communism, national socialism, and democratic socialism makes it remarkably easy for members of each ideology to wag their fingers at the others and say, “That wasn’t real socialism.” However, there is one common thread in each of these definitions of socialism. From Saint-Simon to AOC, all self-described socialists have shared the belief that top-down answers to society’s problems are superior to the bottom-up answers created by the free market.

Rather than admit that Nazism was socialist and disastrous, diehard socialists declare “that wasn’t socialism.” It would be more honest if they just said, “Oops.” But they typically react the same way (in vehement denial) to failed socialist experiments everywhere, from the Soviet Union to Venezuela.

FEE’s director of content, Dan Sanchez, generated numerous affirmations when he recently tweeted this:

Cases of socialism they don’t like: “Not true socialism.” Cases of capitalism they do like: “Not true capitalism.” Socialists always lose on economics, so they try to win with word play.


Ask yourself this: Does the following statement sound like something a socialist would say or something a free-market, capitalist advocate would espouse?

The good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners.

That was Adolf Hitler in a 1931 interview with Richard Breiting. He said essentially the same thing a hundred times or more, and it is exactly what he carried out in practice. And it is as socialist as it gets. Nothing capitalist or free market about it.

A century ago today, a megalomaniac began his rise to political power. The world suffered unspeakable catastrophe at the hands of that very anti-Christian and anti-capitalist monster. Do not be gullible or foolish enough to suggest he was otherwise.

For additional information, see:
The Only Spectrum That Makes Sense by Lawrence W. Reed
https://elamerican.com/the-only-spectrum-that-makes-sense/


The Nazis Were Capitalist? A Lie Touted by Socialists by Chris Calton
http://economiccollapsenews.com/2017/10/31/the-nazis-were-capitalists-a-welcomed-lie-touted-by-socialists/


Were the Nazis Really Socialists? It Depends on How You Define Socialism by Michael Rieger
https://fee.org/articles/were-the-nazis-really-socialists-it-depends-on-how-you-define-socialism/


The XYZs of Socialism (free eBook) by Lawrence W. Reed
https://fee.org/resources/the-xyz-s-of-socialism/


You May Think You Like Socialism, But You’re Probably Not a Socialist at Heart by Kyle deVries
https://fee.org/articles/you-may-think-you-like-socialism-but-you-re-probably-not-a-socialist-at-heart/


Was Adolf Hitler a Christian? (video) by Ray Comfort and Gordon Robertson
link not found..i'm working on it.
Best i can do.  APparently Ray Comfort is no longer associated with CBN..has his own blog.
https://dailyevidence.wordpress.com/2013/01/28/hitler-was-a-christian/
Gordon Robertson's article:
https://www1.cbn.com/700club/god-hitler
I haven't seen Robertson's video yet.

Was Hitler a Christian? By James Patrick Holding
https://www.equip.org/article/was-hitler-a-christian/
Calypso Jones
Calypso Jones

Posts : 28950
Points : 39033
Reputation : 576
Join date : 2021-02-08
Age : 24

HawkTheSlayer and Red Lily like this post

Back to top Go down

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century Empty Re: What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

Post by HawkTheSlayer Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:08 pm

Instead of the Nazi ideals being disseminated to the government from a leader,  we have Nazi ideals being disseminated from actors in government to a derelict, mental invalid,  puppet on a string, Joe Bama Bin Biden.

_________________
Evil is da Devil minus da D.
HawkTheSlayer
HawkTheSlayer

Posts : 15814
Points : 20315
Reputation : 573
Join date : 2021-01-31
Location : Acadiana

HawkTheSlayer, Red Lily and Calypso Jones like this post

Back to top Go down

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century Empty Re: What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

Post by Calypso Jones Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:12 pm

I'd give you multiple likes on that if i could. I'll speak to the admin. LOLOL
Calypso Jones
Calypso Jones

Posts : 28950
Points : 39033
Reputation : 576
Join date : 2021-02-08
Age : 24

HawkTheSlayer likes this post

Back to top Go down

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century Empty Re: What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

Post by jirqoadai Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:15 pm

we are fortunate that not all socialist dictators are bad people. just the majority of them are. and a few of those hated communists.


Last edited by jirqoadai on Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:26 pm; edited 1 time in total
jirqoadai
jirqoadai

Posts : 8123
Points : 10119
Reputation : 124
Join date : 2021-03-02
Location : hillary still hasnt been shot for treason

Back to top Go down

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century Empty Re: What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

Post by HawkTheSlayer Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:23 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:I'd give you multiple likes on that if i could.   I'll speak to the admin.  LOLOL

Ok. I'll do like Vege and give myself a like.

_________________
Evil is da Devil minus da D.
HawkTheSlayer
HawkTheSlayer

Posts : 15814
Points : 20315
Reputation : 573
Join date : 2021-01-31
Location : Acadiana

Calypso Jones likes this post

Back to top Go down

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century Empty Re: What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

Post by jirqoadai Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:28 pm

i can hold in high esteem Franco and Pinochet. now i will come back with an alternet for Saloth Sar
jirqoadai
jirqoadai

Posts : 8123
Points : 10119
Reputation : 124
Join date : 2021-03-02
Location : hillary still hasnt been shot for treason

Back to top Go down

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century Empty Re: What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

Post by jirqoadai Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:45 pm

these are the better choices than Solath Sar.
1. Hou Yuon
2. Koy Thuon
3. Hu Nim
4. Sok Thuok
jirqoadai
jirqoadai

Posts : 8123
Points : 10119
Reputation : 124
Join date : 2021-03-02
Location : hillary still hasnt been shot for treason

Back to top Go down

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century Empty Re: What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

Post by JMWinPR Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:06 pm

@Calypso Jones
Thank you for a great find!!. I have also heard that Hitler and the "Neo Nazis" are right wing. Hitler because he was a "nationalist" as opposed to globalist. Very short sighted as his goal was world domination. As for the Neo's........I've no idea what their ideqology is other than white prison thugs as opposed to black prison thugs.

JMWinPR

Posts : 1099
Points : 2657
Reputation : 109
Join date : 2021-03-02
Location : P.R.

HawkTheSlayer and Calypso Jones like this post

Back to top Go down

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century Empty Re: What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

Post by JMWinPR Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:20 pm

@Calypso Jones Just looked up Neo Nazis. I don't understand why they are called right wing or far right. They seem to have a lot in common with the KKK. The defining factor seems to be the moniker "White Supremacy". I've no idea how you make a connection with E Pluribus Unum, equal treatment under the law are tenets of "white supremacy" Goebbels must be hard at work at BLM, SPLC, ALCU etc to make that connection.

JMWinPR

Posts : 1099
Points : 2657
Reputation : 109
Join date : 2021-03-02
Location : P.R.

HawkTheSlayer, Red Lily and Calypso Jones like this post

Back to top Go down

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century Empty Re: What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

Post by jirqoadai Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:36 am

Aryan Nation is affiliated with the Bloods.
jirqoadai
jirqoadai

Posts : 8123
Points : 10119
Reputation : 124
Join date : 2021-03-02
Location : hillary still hasnt been shot for treason

JMWinPR likes this post

Back to top Go down

What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century Empty Re: What the Nazis had in common with every other collectivist regime in the 20th century

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 1 of 2 1, 2  Next

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum