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How could Kamala Harris win

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Post by Wyatt Earp Thu Jul 25, 2024 2:19 am

Sprintcyclist wrote:Among voters under 35, 49% said in April or June that they would support Trump and 42% Biden, but now, 47% support Harris to 43% for Trump.

The same Black voters who split 70% for Biden to 23% for Trump in previous polling now break 78% for Harris to 15% for Trump.

Among Hispanic voters, Biden trailed Trump in earlier polling 50% to 41%; those same voters now split about evenly, 47% Harris to 45% for Trump.
Women split 46% Biden to 46% Trump in earlier polling, but now break 50% Harris to 45% Trump.

Do you understand that those numbers are not good for Harris?

Voters under 30 went 60-36 for Biden in 2020.

The 78% Harris is purportedly receiving of the black vote would be the worst a Democrat has done since 1960. Trump probably doesn't get 15% when it's election time since the GOP hasn't built up a way to get out their vote, but still.

Harris only beating Trump by 2 with Hispanics is a catastrophic collapse as Biden won that vote by 33% in 2020. That flips Arizona and Nevada to Trump.

Biden won the woman vote in 2020 57-42, so again, that's terrible.

All of those findings are consistent with a Harris loss. To put icing on the cake, Harris does worse than Biden with white seniors who are overrepresented in swing states.

To say Harris polls better than Biden is not saying much, but Biden was polling better than Harris until Democrats nuked him. It was better for them to lose with him because they could at least say they lost because Biden had dementia. Now it's because they just suck.
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Post by Wyatt Earp Thu Jul 25, 2024 2:40 am

Given that Harris stands to gain over Biden in her home state of California while losing some white voters elsewhere, it would not be a major surprise if she needs to win the popular vote by 4% just to win the electoral college.
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Post by vege57 Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:25 am

Wyatt Earp wrote:Given that Harris stands to gain over Biden in her home state of California while losing some white voters elsewhere, it would not be a major surprise if she needs to win the popular vote by 4% just to win the electoral college.

Two things come to mind, Polls are notoriously unreliable these days, and the collegiate system doesnt care if you win the popular vote
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Post by Casey Jones Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:58 pm

I refuse to discuss these fake numbers anymore.

They all add up to gaslighting and a planned election steal.

And THAT does not surprise me. The Color Revolution wasn't cancelled - it's just rolling on apace.

We will not get out of this by voting in fraudulent, rigged elections.
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Post by Casey Jones Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:26 pm

...so I guess the question is:

Can a stupid woman, economically illiterate, who has ZERO support except by fellow radicals who've taken over the institutional media...no support, obvious plans to have the election stolen; in a time when we're feeling the result of 16 years of nonstop money-printing...while huge numbers of the population are Died Suddenly after Safe-And-Effective...with the whole nation invaded by 40 million unmarked combatants whose loyalties are not known...CAN THIS GOVERNMENT CONTINUE this way?

I say no. And frankly, I think collapse helps us more than them. They HAVE no solutions - their solutions are those of Lenin, of Mao, of Pol Pot and Hugo Chavez and Robert Mugabee. Their solutions make us a hellhole...but those of us who are NOT Leftists, know how to do things. How to plant; how to harvest; how to hunt, kill, field-dress.

How to live like civilized people. The Ten Commandments spell it out: Do not steal, lie, kill, slander, or covet the mate of another. Live and let live, and life will be better than it would, otherwise.

Americans know this. Washington rejects this - and Washington's Permanent Elite Class just gets dumber by the year. Kameltoe wouldn't have a job cleaning rooms at the Watergate Hotel, forty years ago. Her Hillaryness couldn't pass the DC Bar Exam.

Now they're both "leaders." Now MMT - Magic Money Tree - is accepted economic theory.

Now, with the treasury empty and the money-printing game almost over, to Kameltoe, it's still about promising plunder to the people she likes moar than Americans.

They think they've got a dynasty. But what will happen is, they'll die nasty.
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Post by Keith Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:20 pm

Casey Jones wrote:We will not get out of this by voting in fraudulent, rigged elections.

I've been saying this for the past four years. Yet there are millions of people (particularly those not on the far left) who still haven't gotten a clue yet. And they probably never will, as long as they stay in the habit of voting and watching the bullshit comfort food on Faux News. I mean, they couldn't even vet a different candidate this time. They had to go with the same guy who lost four years ago. What makes them think he's not gonna lose again?

I hate to say it, but unless I start seeing some serious changes in our political system and/or the mentality of average Americans, I refuse to take part in any more of these dumb voting games. If voting actually worked, they would have it outlawed. The System can't trust us to give our kids a good, private education, own a handgun, drive a gas-powered car or use a gas stove, yet we're supposed to believe they can trust us to have a valid and legitimate say in who our leaders are and how this country is run? Give me a friggin' break.
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Post by Calypso Jones Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:46 pm

Keith. there are a lot of people thatnwould say that if you don't do your duty as an American citizen and vote then you have no room to criticize.
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Post by Keith Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:22 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:Keith.  there are a lot of people thatnwould say that if you don't do your duty as an American citizen and vote then you have no room to criticize.    

Criticize what? The fact that I was smart enough not to get scammed one more time?

I remember right after the 2020 election and everything that came out about how phony it was. I was criticizing myself for thinking I could make a difference by voting.

I might vote for RFK, Jr. if he's on the ballot in my state, but only to protest the two-party system, not because I genuinely believe he can win. But if I end up not voting, I won't need to complain or criticize. If anything, I'll be blessed with the satisfaction of knowing I was right the whole time about what a sham American politics is.

I don't care if others have a problem with me not voting. That's not going to stop me. I'm doing what I think is right in my heart. Besides, with how dumbed down and irrational the voting public has become, it actually makes very little sense to continue voting.

One last thing, voting is not a duty or obligation. Voting is optional. The only duty a person has as a citizen is to pay their taxes. The System doesn't care if you vote or not. They're going to pick your president for you.
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Post by Calypso Jones Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:56 pm

paying taxes is not a duty...it's legalized theft by the gov't.
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Post by Keith Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:04 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:paying taxes is not a duty...it's legalized theft by the gov't.

I'm inclined to agree, but the fact is, they still expect it from you. Go without paying your taxes and see how it works out.
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