Deaths & Side Effects from Vaccines

Red Lily wrote:

RV wrote:Supposedly, there was (someone?) on here who claimed that EVERYONE who took the "Vaccine" would IMMEDIATELY die. I confess that I have NEVER gotten that from a comment nor read it at all from here or anyplace else. The human body is highly complex and what seems to do one thing on one person does not do the same thing in someone else. There are of course exceptions, for instance Mustard gas, nuclear bombs, etc.

What I have gotten is that SOME MAY die, and obviously some have. How many have actually been IMMEDIATELY killed by the "Vaccine"? Is anyone's guess as the data is never going to be released as it was "accidentally deleted", covered up, hidden, manipulated or "doesn't exist" altogether. I have seen commercials which stated that addictions such as, illegal drug use, smoking and/or drinking COULD lead to premature death, although no one seems to argue or question those "facts". No one talks about the 90+ year old that smoked and drank for years as an argument that smoking and drinking was not "dangerous" to one's health.

Yet, just because someone took 1+ doses of the "Vaccine" and didn't IMMEDIATELY die, suddenly EVERYONE who is pro-vaxx uses that "fact" as a reason that no investigation should be done into those who did die immediately. What I have also seen are morticians who claim that they are seeing huge blood clots that are "abnormal" and that they have never seen before. Is there something else causing it or is it the "Vaccine"? We may never know. The MSM won't cover it, labeled as "misinformation/disinformation/propaganda", no one dares even discuss it for fear of the labels associated. Doctors who even suggest that something may be going on are immediately suspended and have their hospital privileges revoked. The message is clear, "don't question the data, the assumptions nor the political narrative!"

If there really is nothing there, an investigation would reveal that. Real data would reveal that. Instead we're just told that we aren't supposed to question anything and just take whatever goo the "government" wants us to take. Hiding information does not make it seem "trustworthy". Deleting data regardless of who "swears" that there is nothing there and claims that it was all "accidental" does not make it "trustworthy", "factual" nor "true". In other words, don't pee on my leg and try to convince me that it's raining!

No-one has ever said that people who get the shot are going to die IMMEDIATELY but it HAS been said plenty of times here that everyone who gets the vax IS going to die and that's just paranoid lunacy.  You haven't being paying attenton.

Oh I forgot, it HAS also been claimed, at least once, that someone died immediately.   Tiffany Dover.   It's been claimed here several times that she didn't faint when she got the vax, she dropped dead.  Then they wheeled out her body double to fool us.   Jamie Foxx too.  He's dead didn't you know?  What you see is his body double.

It's been claimed that Covid doesn't exist and is a psyops operation.  People HAVE died from Covid and people HAVE died from the vax and, of course, it should be investigated but the truth lay somewhere in the middle of both extremes.

For over 2,000 years, people have been dying. I was always told growing up that death and taxes were the only sure things in life. To think, believe or intimate that human beings are not going to die eventually is "paranoid lunacy". To discern whether something is causing PREMATURE death (i.e. murder, etc.) is what we hire police and doctors (i.e. "science") for. I have never said, thought, commented, indicated nor intimated EVER that getting the Vaxx. would cause IMMEDIATE nor eventual death. I can't and won't be responsible for someone who reads my comments and reads in their own biases, fears, insecurities and/or twists my words to claim that I said something that I didn't.

I have no idea who "Tiffany Dover" is nor have I ever claimed that there was some sort of "body double" for this person. It strikes me that President Depends could indeed use a "body double" so long as they are in their right mind. I'm sorry that this has caused so much anger and fear, it certainly did NOT involve me in any, way, shape nor form.

I HAVE heard of "Jamie Fox" but again, only cursory wise. I have never watched him, listened to him, referred to him nor attributed him as either being dead, alive or body doubled. I don't know his Vaxx. status and really couldn't care less about him. If he is some sort of Hollywood "star", then I am pretty sure that he is a Democrat so we have obvious disagreements.

You claim that the "truth lay somewhere in the middle". I can't even claim that since we don't have accurate data about anything, we have someone's word and a ton of lies for it but, no actual data. If I had to guess, we'll never have nor ever get the "truth".

Given that there was mass hysteria, signs everywhere advocating "social distancing", mask "mandates", doctors who were thrown out of hospitals (while the hospitals claimed to be lacking staff), threats of job terminations, tons of government spending, ads about it and the Vaxx. on every platform, business and church closings and election law changes, I believe that "it" definitely exists (what "it" is, I don't know). Whether it was a covert operation or an actual "crisis" resulting from a lab leak is again, anyone's guess. I have always had a plethora of questions about it, none of which have ever been nor ever will be answered.

I have a plethora of questions about the 2020 presidential election too but, I doubt that those will ever be answered either.

Tiffany Dover was a nurse, and one of the first non-test patients to take the vaxx.

She fell over out of her chair, unconscious, ten minutes later.

She was then off work indefinitely.

Meantime, one Justin Dover, identified in Vital Statistics as married to Tiffany some years earlier...changed his FB profile from "married" to "single." AND...bought a very nice house he couldn't have afforded on his wages of a few years ago.

The suspicions mounted, Tiffany was the first known Vaxx fatality. Until TPTB trotted out a BLONDE woman, claiming to be Tiffany Dover, to give a quick press conference.

In all known photos of Tiffany, including the very-brief news-crew video footage celebrating the release of the Vaxx...Tiffany was a black or dark-brown-haired woman with a dark complexion. Not black, just swarthy...Mediterranean.

Meantime, Find A Grave found a grave for one Tiffany Pontes - Tiffany Dover's maiden name, in her hometown. I don't remember if the date of death is on the headstone.

I'm sorry, it's not a conspiracy. I'm sorrier that you're not the slightest-bit interested in a story that summarizes the evil, the dishonesty, the criminal covering-up with money, that the Davos depopulationists are practicing and engaging in.

Tiffany Dover is not dead but believe what you will.

Yeah, and the Jab is Safe And Effective.

You do you.

I like to use critical thinking and weighing of evidence. Many people don't - they prefer to repeat what they're told to repeat.

Casey Jones wrote:Yeah, and the Jab is Safe And Effective.

You do you.

I like to use critical thinking and weighing of evidence.  Many people don't - they prefer to repeat what they're told to repeat.

Seriously?  How can you possibly twist my saying "Tiffany Dover is not dead" into  "Yeah, the jab is safe and effective?"

It's like the Twilight Zone here sometimes!

Fact is that conspiracy kooks made her life a living hell.  Constantly saying she was dead, writing songs about it, forming Facebook groups and even visiting her house and swamping social media.   She went into hiding.

When she came out to deny all of this nonsense yeah she'd dyed her hair blonde and wore makeup.  Oh the horror, how dare she!   It is the SAME woman!

Casey Jones wrote:Tiffany Dover was a nurse, and one of the first non-test patients to take the vaxx.

She fell over out of her chair, unconscious, ten minutes later.

She was then off work indefinitely.

Meantime, one Justin Dover, identified in Vital Statistics as married to Tiffany some years earlier...changed his FB profile from "married" to "single."  AND...bought a very nice house he couldn't have afforded on his wages of a few years ago.

The suspicions mounted, Tiffany was the first known Vaxx fatality.  Until TPTB trotted out a BLONDE woman, claiming to be Tiffany Dover, to give a quick press conference.

In all known photos of Tiffany, including the very-brief news-crew video footage celebrating the release of the Vaxx...Tiffany was a black or dark-brown-haired woman with a dark complexion.  Not black, just swarthy...Mediterranean.

Meantime, Find A Grave found a grave for one Tiffany Pontes - Tiffany Dover's maiden name, in her hometown.  I don't remember if the date of death is on the headstone.

I'm sorry, it's not a conspiracy.  I'm sorrier that you're not the slightest-bit interested in a story that summarizes the evil, the dishonesty, the criminal covering-up with money, that the Davos depopulationists are practicing and engaging in.

yet more bogus conspiracy lies

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/nurse-thought-dead-by-antivaxxers-confirms-she-is-alive/news-story/b128bc2d06eb39d1141cfbefc46f4ca6

Casey Jones wrote:Yeah, and the Jab is Safe And Effective.

You do you.

I like to use critical thinking and weighing of evidence.  Many people don't - they prefer to repeat what they're told to repeat.

I have no knowledge of Dover-Ponte. What I do know is that several people that I KNOW were threatened with employment termination if they weren't "Vaccinated". One of the folks I know first hand refused and told them to go ahead and fire him, in the end the employer backed down. I should add that the man who refused was also in my family and in the healthcare industry! My point is that I'm not speculating, guessing, surmising or assuming facts, I KNOW what happened.

What I do know is that I was personally threatened, harassed and humiliated in a public store because of not wearing a mask. The store has since went bankrupt, closed its doors and is no more. If there was "paranoia", "hysteria" or "triggering" going on, it was from the Democrats NOT, anyone sane, rational, Conservative or logical. I might add that there are still "social distancing" and mask signs up even though its been proven that they are worthless...

There were many lies told and a whole lot of evidence deleted, covered up, "lost", nonexistent, etc. The Democrat media helped to fuel the misinformation campaign of the Democrats. Trials were not done and the "Vaxx." was rolled out because of TAX MONEY. People lost their lives and so far, it's all been swept under the rug. At this point, I wouldn't bet my lunch money that the people who were hospitalized weren't deliberately murdered. A lack of evidence works BOTH ways, it means that it cannot be proven that they were guilty but, it also means that they cannot provide proof of their innocence either.

In the same way, the presidential election was covered up, "lost", deleted, scuttled and explained away.

In BOTH cases, transparency would prevent anyone from coming to any conclusion but, a truthful one. Unfortunately, powerful interests and money won't allow transparency to happen in either case. In BOTH cases there are anomalies, inconsistencies and irregularities that make them HIGHLY suspect.

Sprintcyclist wrote:
yet more bogus conspiracy lies

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/nurse-thought-dead-by-antivaxxers-confirms-she-is-alive/news-story/b128bc2d06eb39d1141cfbefc46f4ca6

Yeah, it doesn't fit the Daily Narrative.

Elsewhere those SAME "journalists" are blaming the shoplifting epidemic on white wealthy suburbanites.

How much lying do you just suck up and repeat, mindlessly, before you start to wonder?

https://intellectualtakeout.org/2017/05/the-middle-doesnt-always-equal-true/

Casey Jones wrote:

Sprintcyclist wrote:
yet more bogus conspiracy lies

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/nurse-thought-dead-by-antivaxxers-confirms-she-is-alive/news-story/b128bc2d06eb39d1141cfbefc46f4ca6

Yeah, it doesn't fit the Daily Narrative.

Elsewhere those SAME "journalists" are blaming the shoplifting epidemic on white wealthy suburbanites.

How much lying do you just suck up and repeat, mindlessly, before you start to wonder?

Wondering would take brain power and actually using that brain to logically think it through, not something possible for the brainwashed.