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Post by Red Lily Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:12 pm

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Red Lily wrote:The only birds I eat are chickens.  We gots to stop the racism in naming birds - Page 2 452754053
I prefer turkey. Lol. Chicken is good too.
Nothing has the flavor of wild duck, though.

Ooops I forgot turkey. I love turkey!

I'm not that fond of duck though and find it a bit sweet for my liking. Little itty bitty birds have more bones than meat so I can't see the point lol.
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Post by 2cent Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:58 pm

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HawkTheSlayer wrote:Blackbirds are very tasty in a gravy or smothered down with onions. We ate them all the time when I was a kid. My grandma would smother them down and add some homemade plum wine.

They were delicious.

What are "Blackbirds"?

Crows?  Magpies?  Cormorans?
Blackbirds are just that; blackbirds.  As in, "Four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie."  Capiche?  Then, there's also red-winged blackbirds. (The wings are not red; just the underneath  that you can't see until they fly up.  The red is striking.) Also, "Bicolored," Brewer's, Rusty, Tricolored, an Yellow-headed.  <--Those are all the several types of blackbirds.  IOW, they do not belong in the crow family, nor vice~verse.  

Of Magpies, there are 3 types that I'm aware of:  American, Black-billed, and Yellow-billed.  Nope, they're not 'blackbirds', either.

Cormorants are a northern water bird that I'm not familiar with.  There's several kinds, though. Again, not related to blackbirds.

IOW, "Blackbirds" is a species, not a general term inclusive of all birds that have black on them.








Appreciative of the instruction.  I know little about birds, beyond my own observation.

Crows, are of course, the black sheep of the avian family.  Plain...and bad eating...but incredibly intelligent.  Crows are one of the few animals who actually understand the use of tools - they've proved it in a number of observations and tests.  Crows can learn words - how many know that?  A parrot is eager to learn words, to mimic.  A crow, less so - because, probably, a crow has much more going on in his life.  But he can, and occasionally, will.

Cormorants (appreciate the spelling correction) I know nothing about, except:  When I would take trains into Canada when working with the Wisconsin Central/CN, and go across the rail bridge at Saulte Ste Marie...that bridge was LOUSY with what my co-workers (all outdoorsmen) identified as cormorants.  To me, they were just big black birds who felt the need to eliminate as that noisy red-and-white beast passed under them on their perch on the bridge.  I thought they looked a lot like crows.  Crows, FWIW, like being near water, too, although they're not strictly waterfowl.   When I got to know the crows I did, it was on a lakeshore.  They liked their fishing, and liked the dead fish washing up, too.

I always thought "blackbirds" was another name for one of these crow-like birds - big and black and bad-eating.  Putting a bunch of crows in a pie to mock the King would have been the stuff of subversive nursery rimes of centuries earlier, I'd think.
I think crows adapt to whatever habitat they happen to be in. But that, like you pointed out, only speaks for their intelligence. Not all birds can adapt to different climates, AFAIK. All I know for sure if that crows have remarkable eyesight. Or maybe it's they're ears. Next to impossible to shoot one. Ya got one out in the yard and try to shoot it? It's gone in half a second, as soon as your hand touches that doorknob. (No matter how quietly and slowly you move.)
As or they're speaking - ever try to get one to say, "Ah?" <ducks and runs!> My husband heard they will if their tongues are split, but that could be just old wives tales sittin' in. We gots to stop the racism in naming birds - Page 2 553500953

A little crow trivia. There's this little town in KS just north of Hutchinson where crows like to roost. In the evenings, the skies turn black come time or them to settle in of an evening. Come morning when they're headed out, it looks just like a wheel in the sky - with crows following their own "spokes." They're very welcome there, as they eat the weevils making it completely unnecessary for the farmers to spray their crops. Pretty keen, no?
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Post by 2cent Fri Nov 03, 2023 7:10 pm

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HawkTheSlayer wrote:Blackbirds are very tasty in a gravy or smothered down with onions. We ate them all the time when I was a kid. My grandma would smother them down and add some homemade plum wine.

They were delicious.

What are "Blackbirds"?

Crows?  Magpies?  Cormorans?
Blackbirds are just that; blackbirds.  As in, "Four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie."  Capiche?  Then, there's also red-winged blackbirds. (The wings are not red; just the underneath  that you can't see until they fly up.  The red is striking.) Also, "Bicolored," Brewer's, Rusty, Tricolored, an Yellow-headed.  <--Those are all the several types of blackbirds.  IOW, they do not belong in the crow family, nor vice~verse.  

Of Magpies, there are 3 types that I'm aware of:  American, Black-billed, and Yellow-billed.  Nope, they're not 'blackbirds', either.

Cormorants are a northern water bird that I'm not familiar with.  There's several kinds, though. Again, not related to blackbirds.

IOW, "Blackbirds" is a species, not a general term inclusive of all birds that have black on them.

There's a reason why they call a rueful come-uppance, "Eating Crow."
Yes, there is.  
The term eat crow is uniquely American in origin. Its first known use dates back to the 19th century when eating a crow required intense boiling to make it palatable. But, even then, it was like eating garbage because they’re carrion-eating birds, so their meat is disgusting.
https://grammarist.com/idiom/eat-crow/

As in, being fed your arrogance isn't very palatable.  

Red Wings are plentiful in the rice fields. They are considered crop depredators and you can shoot all you want.
But why waste them?

If one eats dove or quail and likes it,  one will like blackbirds..

Robins taste better but that's a no-no.
Been so long since I've had quail I forget what it tastes like. <sniff, sniff>

We used to have some Red Wings that hung out down by the pond, but they've done disappeared. Seems there's plenty to many disappearing. Haven't seen indigo buntings in a while, mourning doves, owls seem a little scarce, too. We gots to stop the racism in naming birds - Page 2 553500953
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Post by HawkTheSlayer Fri Nov 03, 2023 7:21 pm

There are lots of dove here. They have 5 to 6 nestings a year.

Dove have a short life span. So if you don't kill them, they will die anyway.

I used to enjoy the dove hunt. It's the first hunting season to open in Sept.

Besides deer hunting, all types of hunting is way down.

Populations of raccoons and squirell are at peak or over.

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